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04-20-2016, 04:17 PM
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It is. My daughter loved it there.
I gotta say that I'm more than a little bit alarmed by all the post here that are dismissive and even contemptuous of concerns about the massive voter disenfranchisement we've been experiencing here. Tom Paine called the vote "the beating heart of democracy" and he wasn't wrong.
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I'd like to see more evidence of this so called 'massive voter disenfranchisement'. Are you talking about NY?
Must be a Missoura Mule dangling in my family tree.
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04-20-2016, 04:36 PM
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I'd like to see more evidence of this so called 'massive voter disenfranchisement'. Are you talking about NY?
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No, not exclusuvely. There's also Arizona and Iowa. And I find it interesting that the New York AG is looking into situation. I'll wait to see what he has to say.
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04-20-2016, 05:18 PM
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There is no comparison between voter suppression as practiced by GOP state controlled legislatures and the current primary rules in New York state.
You don't hear Hillary complaining about the caucus system states she lost to Bernie. I would imagine that some of the caucus state systems are less democratic than the New York state primary.
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04-20-2016, 05:26 PM
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There is no comparison between voter suppression as practiced by GOP state controlled legislatures and the current primary rules in New York state.
You don't hear Hillary complaining about the caucus system states she lost to Bernie. I would imagine that some of the caucus state systems are less democratic than the New York state primary.
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Are you suggesting that Hillary had less chances of winning than Bernie in those caucus states because of their primary process? Guess you are.
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04-20-2016, 05:29 PM
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You can read can't you?
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04-20-2016, 05:40 PM
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You can read can't you?
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Guess I can.
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04-20-2016, 05:45 PM
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Partisan restrictions on primaries are just schemes by the established parties to pick their voters. Like gerrymandering, it is undemocratic. Party identity is not stamped on anyone's DNA. One person, one vote, wherever they choose to place it.
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Damn right. It's about the individual in this country, not the collective.
Rugged individuals.
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04-20-2016, 06:23 PM
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There is no comparison between voter suppression as practiced by GOP state controlled legislatures and the current primary rules in New York state.
You don't hear Hillary complaining about the caucus system states she lost to Bernie. I would imagine that some of the caucus state systems are less democratic than the New York state primary.
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That's not the point.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/c...g-voter-fraud/
And I didn't mention Bill's electioneering in Massachusetts.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3...er-Campaigning
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04-20-2016, 06:26 PM
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this is double standard Obama won twice with the same system I don't recall any of us complaining about it
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