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03-16-2016, 07:49 PM
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Just working the system like "your gal" and without the direct assistance of the DNC Chair. What's so bad about that?
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Aha! So, Bernie is an 'establishment' candidate...
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03-17-2016, 06:51 AM
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If Trump is elected, the Congress would probably stay in Republican hands. They would rebel.
If Hillary is elected, her coattails would be pretty non-existent. That would leave the Congress in Republican hands too. The obstruction that followed would make the last 8 years look like a honeymoon.
If Bernie is elected, it would have to be part of a movement. Movements grow very long coattails which could flip the Congress.
Bernie is the best hope for an end to Republican misrule in the Congress.
So, since you think Bernie has no chance, you throw your support behind the candidate who's guaranteed not to implement a single shred of Bernie's agenda?
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First, I disagree with your premise. Trump may well be as socially liberal as Hillary. He can't say that now.
As to who I will vote for, in NY you vote in the primary of your party. Period. I'll be voting for Bernie in the primary.
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03-17-2016, 07:01 AM
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And gender doesn't help her either. Some polls show Bernie as having majority support among women, particularly young women.
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her gender helped her 8 years ago, today it not only doesn't help but hurts her image as she is now more overweight and older..... tapping into our sub-conscience image of a grandma... few think of grandma as the person to take the lead of the family even though they love and respect her. Hill does not even have the love or respect on her side.
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03-17-2016, 09:25 AM
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And that proved to be 100% accurate!
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He was making the point to FDR that the banks were a part of the process of coming out of the Depression as much as his New Deal programs...cooperation was in order during the 30s.
The banking system is the American economic system...it would be like shutting down your central nervous system and then asking you to run a marathon without it.
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03-18-2016, 06:46 AM
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Coattail sex, new one on me.
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Like Fred and Ginger, Bill and Hillary are practitioners.
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03-18-2016, 07:10 AM
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Sax and violins?
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03-18-2016, 07:12 AM
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He was making the point to FDR that the banks were a part of the process of coming out of the Depression as much as his New Deal programs...cooperation was in order during the 30s.
The banking system is the American economic system...it would be like shutting down your central nervous system and then asking you to run a marathon without it.
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Are you referencing Keynes' 2/1/38 private letter to FDR? ( http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/abo...eynes_1938.pdf)
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03-18-2016, 09:30 AM
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I just read a book about FDR by an old professor I had at Ohio University called Man Of Destiny FDR And The Making of the American Century by Alonzo Hamby. The author mentions Keynes writing either FDR or Eleanor about Roosevelt's antagonism toward Wall Street during the mid-1930s.
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04-04-2016, 12:53 PM
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04-05-2016, 03:05 PM
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Not if he keeps talking like this. Bernie doesn't really seem better informed than Trump on a lot of critical issues.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...mepage%2Fstory
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