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10-27-2015, 05:21 PM
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The whole incident is on several smartphones, John. Not just the 30 seconds of brutality. We will be seeing the whole incident before too long. You want to jump to the conclusion that the child was an innocent victim of the out of control pig.
I'm jumping to the conclusion that a cop isn't called into a classroom unless a kid is being beligerently defiant. We shall see, shant we.
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I am not claiming that the girl was an innocent victim. She needed to be physically removed since she was not complying to school authority. The level of physical force is what I am questioning. Do the cops use the same level of force regardless of gender, age and physical strength. I already know Zeke's answer. 
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10-27-2015, 05:22 PM
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The whole incident is on several smartphones, John. We will be seeing the whole incident before too long. You want to jump to the conclusion that the child was an innocent victim of the out of control pig.
I'm jumping to the conclusion that a cop isn't called into a classroom unless a kid is being beligerently defiant. We shall see, shan't we.
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From what we've seen so far, she certainly appears to have been the victim of an out of control police deputy. Whether she was guilty of anything beyond refusing to leave the classroom remains to be seen.
Regardless, the level of force the deputy exerted to effect her removal was clearly excessive, far beyond what would have been necessary. My prediction, however, is that nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does, even when the excessive force results in needless death.
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10-27-2015, 05:23 PM
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I am not claiming that the girl was an innocent victim.
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He realizes that but distorting your position is the only way he knows to defend his own.
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10-27-2015, 05:27 PM
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Physical removal is fine with me too. Throwing her and her desk around the room isn't.
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Perhaps he was too rough, John. But little missy ODD is not without fault in this incident. When the cop says move, just STFU and move. There will be a hundred civil rights lawyers beating down your door to get you your pound of flesh at a later date.
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10-27-2015, 05:29 PM
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From what we've seen so far, she certainly appears to have been the victim of an out of control police deputy. Whether she was guilty of anything beyond refusing to leave the classroom remains to be seen.
Regardless, the level of force the deputy exerted to effect her removal was clearly excessive, far beyond what would have been necessary.
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That's one opinion.
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10-27-2015, 05:29 PM
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The brutal treatment of a non-violent child is what's at issue.
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I agree. Unless it comes to light that there was a weapon involved, this cop's actions were excessive and unnecessary, and I'm disappointed to see people defending him, though not surprised. Again, we're talking about an insubordinate, unarmed child, not a 200 lb man with his fists up.
Oh no, she's refusing to leave, let's throw her across the damn classroom. 
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10-27-2015, 05:30 PM
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He realizes that but distorting your position is the only way he knows to defend his own.
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OK...quit whining willya?
PS- if you actually took the time to look at my reply to BeamOn, you would see that I did not say that he had suggested anything about the girls innocence or lack thereof. I said that to you.
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10-27-2015, 05:35 PM
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I am not claiming that the girl was an innocent victim.
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I'm a little confused. You're replied to a comment I made to Boreas. If you go back and look at my reply to you I made no such suggestion that you were claiming that the girl was an innocent victim.
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10-27-2015, 05:37 PM
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no reason the cop had to be so brutal with that SEATED student, period. how can anyone justify that!
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10-27-2015, 05:41 PM
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I agree. Unless it comes to light that there was a weapon involved, this cop's actions were excessive and unnecessary, and I'm disappointed to see people defending him, though not surprised. Again, we're talking about an insubordinate, unarmed child, not a 200 lb man with his fists up.
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When I was 18 and waited too long to respond to a lawful direction from a copper to get off my ass and exit the area, I should have got off so easy.
Last edited by Ike Bana; 10-27-2015 at 05:59 PM.
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