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10-27-2015, 02:11 PM
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South Carolina High School Student Dragged From Class
The CNN webpage with the automatic repeating video advertising is sofa king annoying, but they have the best reporting I've seen on this incident.
South Carolina High School Student Arrested.
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10-27-2015, 02:46 PM
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Well, it's South Carolina. You have to expect things like that.
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10-27-2015, 03:14 PM
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I hate cops.
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10-27-2015, 03:17 PM
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I hate cops.
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How enlightened and enlightening.
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10-27-2015, 03:53 PM
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Did y'all read the article? The story I saw on CNN this morning, said the student was on her cell phone in class. The teacher asked her to put it away, she refused. The teacher asked her to leave the room several times...she refused. The assistant principle asked her to leave the room several times...she refused. The officer was called he asked her to leave the room, she refused. The offer told her that if she didn't leave the room he would physically remove her. When she would not leave, guess what? He physically removed her, cuffed and arrested her. Later the cell phone part was reported to be incorrect. But she was clearly asked to leave the room several times due to some sort of disruptive behavior and would not. "I'm not doing anything wrong.", was the only reply reported.
Was the cop too rough? She was more gently treated than the couple of times I was told to move by a cop (at about the same age), and I did not move fast enough.
But I'm left to anticipate that shortly we will find out that the only reason the whole thing happened, including the teacher's requesting her to leave the room and the assistant principal's requesting her to leave the room, is because she's black.
I can tell y'all one thing for sure. Had this been me...after the old man bailed me out, as soon as he got me home, it would have been tune-up time.
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10-27-2015, 04:08 PM
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Did y'all read the article?
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I did. Why?
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The story I saw on CNN this morning, the report at that time said the student was in her cell phone in class.......... Later the cell phone part was reported to be incorrect. But she was clearly asked to leave the room several times due to some sort of disruptive behavior and would not. "I'm not doing anything wrong.", was the only reply reported.
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Maybe she wasn't doing anything wrong. At this point we only know that the original "offense" was bogus. All we know at this point is that she refused to obey instructions to leave the classroom. We don't know why she was so ordered or whether it was for a legitimate reason.
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Was the cop too rough? More gently treated than the couple of times I was told to move by a cop (at about the same age), and did not move fast enough.
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So, you're saying that the level of force was justified, appropriate and necessary? Based on what personal knowledge of the situation?
Was the treatment you received during the above encounters appropriate and necessary? If so, what was your offense?
Is this how you would deal with a situation in which your own bratty teenage daughter refused to "go to her room?"
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But I'm going to assume the only reason the whole thing happened, including the teacher's request to leave and the assistant principal's request to leave the room, is because she's black.
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And, so far, the only person to even allude to a racial angle is you. Is this just you making men out of straw or do you have some kind of valid point to make?
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10-27-2015, 04:28 PM
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I did. Why?
Maybe she wasn't doing anything wrong. At this point we only know that the original "offense" was bogus. All we know at this point is that she refused to obey instructions to leave the classroom. We don't know why she was so ordered or whether it was for a legitimate reason.
So, you're saying that the level of force was justified, appropriate and necessary? Based on what personal knowledge of the situation?
Was the treatment you received during the above encounters appropriate and necessary? If so, what was your offense?
Is this how you would deal with a situation in which your own bratty teenage daughter refused to "go to her room?"
And, so far, the only person to even allude to a racial angle is you. Is this just you making men out of straw or do you have some kind of valid point to make?
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Sure..as Martese Johnson said, "FUCKING RACISTS!!!!!!" I guess I'm the only liberal in the country who's getting a tad sick of it.
So the teacher the asst. principle and the cop are all lying, and had no legitimate reason to ask her to leave the classroom. Most of the black teachers at the wife's school on the west side didn't ask. It was pretty much get out of this room, and get to the principle's office before I whip your ass. They felt pretty comfortable with that as most of the parents, when asked by their kid's teacher what they might suggest when their child refused to cooperate, replied with, "Whip his/her ass." Most did not, but the kids knew they were authorized and generally complied at the second request.
Got any elementary or high school classroom experience yourself, john?
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10-27-2015, 04:38 PM
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Sure..as Martese Johnson said, "FUCKING RACISTS!!!!!!" I guess I'm the only liberal in the country who's getting a tad sick of it.
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You really are hung up on that, aren't you?
And I could be wrong, but I don't think Johnson was there in South Carolina for this one.
Again, you are the one who inserted race into this, just you.
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So the teacher the asst. principle and the cop are all lying, and had no legitimate reason to ask her to leave the classroom.
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What I said was that the original justification for the student being told to leave the classroom was later retracted and that no other reason has yet been given. We don't at this point know whether she was told to leave for a legitimate reason or not.
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Most of the black teachers at the wife's school on the west side didn't ask. It was pretty much get out of this room, and get to the principle's office before I whip your ass. They felt pretty comfortable with that as most of the parents, when asked by their kid's teacher what they might suggest when their child refused to cooperate, replied with, "Whip his/her ass." Most did not, but the kids knew they were authorized and generally complied at the second request.
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Totally irrelevant. Your wife's war stories aren't what's at issue here. The brutal treatment of a non-violent child is what's at issue.
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Got any elementary or high school classroom experience yourself, john?
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The same vicarious sort that you do. Why?
Do you plan to answer any of the questions I asked?
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10-27-2015, 04:51 PM
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The cop has been assigned to that school for quite a few years, so safe to assume that he knows the student body and admins well. He is big and strong enough to carry her and her desk out of class, yet he chose to drag her and her desk violently. Wonder why and all the details are yet to come out. Still how can you condone the violence especially towards a teenage girl?
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10-27-2015, 04:52 PM
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And, for the record, I think you posted this thread simply so you could start accusing us all of reverse racism. Unfortunately, you weren't able to contain yourself long enough and leveled the accusation before anyone had so much as mentioned the student's race. The other give-away came with your mention of Martise Johnson, the other occasion where you tried to bait us.
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