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Old 10-12-2015, 02:21 PM
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Nobody's glorifying anything. They're simply taking a day off. With the exception of July 4th, all of our secular holidays are pretty much nothing more than a day off.

As for what Columbus did, he did pretty much what all European colonizing powers did. Morever, holding his behavior over 5 centuries ago to 21st century standards is a bit disingenuous, if not self-loathing.
We are sons and daughters of Columbus.
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Nobody's glorifying anything. They're simply taking a day off. With the exception of July 4th, all of our secular holidays are pretty much nothing more than a day off.
Then it shouldn't matter to them if their day off is for Indigenous People's Day instead of Columbian Genocide Day.

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As for what Columbus did, he did pretty much what all European colonizing powers did. Morever, holding his behavior over 5 centuries ago to 21st century standards is a bit disingenuous, if not self-loathing.
Columbus-loathing.

Then let's celebrate Hitler Day in Israel. After all, without him, there'd be no Israel.
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We are sons and daughters of Columbus.
No, we're not. Columbus didn't discover America. He discovered the Bahamas.... and promptly set about the business of enslaving the Taino who lived there.
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Old 10-12-2015, 03:35 PM
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Nobody's glorifying anything. They're simply taking a day off. With the exception of July 4th, all of our secular holidays are pretty much nothing more than a day off.

As for what Columbus did, he did pretty much what all European colonizing powers did. Morever, holding his behavior over 5 centuries ago to 21st century standards is a bit disingenuous, if not self-loathing.
Self-loathing is as silly as the self-glorification myths that this 'patriotic holiday' narrative traditionally supported. Funny that you feel defensive about these myths being disrespected.
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We are sons and daughters of Columbus.
Speak for yourself. I ain't related to no Wop Guinea Dago.

I'm a Polack.

For me it's Frederick Fucking Chopin.


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Found this on the internet and couldn't resist.
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Speak for yourself. I ain't related to no Wop Guinea Dago.

I'm a Polack.

For me it's Frederick Fucking Chopin.


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Emily Litella would be so perplexed that we have a special day for the ingenious.

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Old 10-12-2015, 07:45 PM
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No, we're not. Columbus didn't discover America. He discovered the Bahamas.... and promptly set about the business of enslaving the Taino who lived there.
Again you miss the essential point.
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Again you miss the essential point.
Please instruct me, Sensei. What is this essential point of which you speak?
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