Bernie Sandres not qualified to be President

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

You're dealing with blind greed and the illusion of central position. Truth and logic are no match for those.

Zero's statement that he never took a nickel from the government reminds me of something Dick Cheney said in the 2000 VP debate.

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/abou...hronology.html

Without any previous business experience, Cheney leaves the Department of Defense to become the CEO of Halliburton Co., one of the biggest oil-services companies in the world. He will be chairman of the company from 1996 to October 1998 and from February to August 2000. Under Cheney's leadership, Halliburton moves up from 73rd to 18th on the Pentagon's list of top contractors. The company garners $2.3 billion in U.S. government contracts, which almost doubles the $1.2 billion it earned from the government previously. Most of the contracts are granted by the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers.3 Halliburton's overseas operations go from 51% to 68% of its revenue. According to the Center for Public Integrity,4 under Cheney's leadership the company also receives $1.5 billion worth of assistance from government-sponsored agencies such as OPIC (Overseas Private Investment Corporation) and the Export-Import Bank, a huge increase compared to the $100 million that the company had received in federal loans and guarantees in the five years prior to Cheney's arrival. Years later, during the 2000 campaign in a broadcasted vice presidential candidates' debate with Joe Lieberman, Cheney asserts that "the government has absolutely nothing to do" with his financial success as chairman of Halliburton Co.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7zRrQlPYoU

"The government had nothing to do with it"!?

BULLSHIT!

The government had EVERYTHING to do with it.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Zero's statement that he never took a nickel from the government reminds me of something Dick Cheney said in the 2000 VP debate.

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/abou...hronology.html



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7zRrQlPYoU

"The government had nothing to do with it"!?

BULLSHIT!

The government had EVERYTHING to do with it.

No, Tom, he's a Republican. It wouldn't matter if he had mugged old ladies for the money. He earned every penny by the sweat of his brow. Mugging old ladies is hard work. You think it's easy to snatch and run a billion dollars worth of purses? It's those filthy poor people that take money from the government that you should be hatin' on. Stay focused now...........

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Boreas

And this is why Libertarianism is such an egocentric and childish ideology.

Originally Posted by finnbow

Hell, every time they buy or use product/service from a company subsidized by the government (e.g., oil companies, the aircraft industry) they're "taking from the government."

Simple-minded dipshits.

Yep.........

I'm lovin' watching all of these South Carolina Republicans quietly accept disaster relief from the Federal Government. Check it out.........those worthless p***ks all voted against relief for NY/NJ after hurricane Sandy.

Well, it IS the Bible belt, so they would tell you it's "blessings from God" and the feds have nothing to do with it. Only heathen Yankees take handouts from Uncle Sam.................Ever noticed how that works?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

and there is no way I will ever get back what I paid in even if I get some long term illness.

And you know that how?

Pulled it out of your ass?

Or are you regurgitating what you were told on some right wing site?

My situation is pretty close to yours.

You said you would be getting $1716 a month from Social Security next year. I'm drawing $1914. I've crunched my numbers. I've include both my contributions for every year I worked plus my employers match and calculated their present worth based on the historical consumer price index.

And you know what?

I will break even after 8 years and 3 months. Anything after that is gravy.

And that doesn't count the value of the insurance that I had while I was working that would have paid me if I had become disabled, or the payments that my family would have received had I died.

As for Medicare I figure the value of the insurance I get from them is at least $10,000 a year. Shit, I'll recoup the piddly little contributions my employer and I made in way less than eight years at that rate.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

And you know that how?

Pulled it out of your ass?

Or are you regurgitating what you were told on some right wing site?

My situation is pretty close to yours.

You said you would be getting $1716 a month from Social Security next year. I'm drawing $1914. I've crunched my numbers. I've include both my contributions for every year I worked plus my employers match and calculated their present worth based on the historical consumer price index.

And you know what?

I will break even after 8 years and 3 months. Anything after that is gravy.

And that doesn't count the value of the insurance that I had while I was working that would have paid me if I had become disabled, or the payments that my family would have received had I died.

As for Medicare I figure the value of the insurance I get from them is at least $10,000 a year. Shit, I'll recoup the piddly little contributions my employer and I made in way less than eight years at that rate.

Excellent post.

The question to ask is this;

Has it killed him?

To listen to him talk, you'd think Zero "Daddy Warbucks" Junk over there has enough to last him a hundred lifetimes. Giving him his tax money back should be like handing Mr. Creosote the mint.

That's what's so ridiculous about some of these right-wingers. They brag about their wealth until the taxman comes.......then they act like their bloated up and drawing flies in the Ethiopian desert, somewhere. At that point, you wonder if they're full of shit about their wealth, or they're just insufferable tightwads...........

[ZeroJunk]

I'm only 62. At 66 I would get 1959.


I paid $220,000 FICA. I haven't paid anything since 2004.

If I had invested that in the same account as my 401K I would have over $2,000,000.

And, coincidently I paid over $1,000,000 in income tax.


Obviously, some people have to pay more in to it that they get out of it or it can't work because so many people get way more than they paid in to it.

Even you guys are smart enough to figure that out. Maybe.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Excellent post.

The question to ask is this;

Has it killed him?

To listen to him talk, you'd think Zero "Daddy Warbucks" Junk over there has enough to last him a hundred lifetimes. Giving him his tax money back should be like handing Mr. Creosote the mint.

That's what's so ridiculous about some of these right-wingers. They brag about their wealth until the taxman comes.......then they act like their bloated up and drawing flies in the Ethiopian desert, somewhere. At that point, you wonder if they're full of shit about their wealth, or they're just insufferable tightwads...........

You poor people are always complaining that somebody is complaining about carrying your load .

Tough to be a bum.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

You poor people are always complaining that somebody is complaining about carrying your load .

How in the hell do you figure you're carrying my load? The way I figure it, you're a few bricks shy of a load as it is.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Obviously, some people have to pay more in to it that they get out of it or it can't work because so many people get way more than they paid in to it.

Even you guys are smart enough to figure that out. Maybe.

If you don't know why that's wrong, then you're even more clueless than I thought you were.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I paid $220,000 FICA. I haven't paid anything since 2004.

If I had invested that in the same account as my 401K I would have over $2,000,000.

Sure you would.

Cuz everybody that invests in the market does just as well as Warren Buffet.

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

And, coincidently I paid over $1,000,000 in income tax.

Congratulations!

I'll give you credit for covering the cost of one cruise missile in your boy Bush's Iraq clusterfuck.

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/usa1203/4.htm

Take your pick of any of the 40 that hit the Al-Dura Farm.

Al-Dura Farm, Baghdad

The war opened on March 20 with an attempted attack on Saddam Hussein. This strike was the beginning of a pattern that would be repeated many times. The U.S. military targeted a facility in the mistaken belief that the Iraqi leadership was there; instead of “decapitating” the regime, this strike resulted in fifteen civilian casualties because of faulty intelligence.

A human intelligence source provided the CIA with information on Saddam Hussein’s alleged location at a farm in al-Dura, a district of southeastern Baghdad.59 Two F-117A Nighthawk aircraft dropped four EGBU-27 2,000-pound penetrator bombs at 3:15 a.m. on a reported bunker at the farm. Moments later, the rest of the farm was hit with up to forty cruise missiles (Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles, or TLAMs) in an attempt to kill Saddam Hussein.60 The U.S. military later acknowledged there was no bunker at the farm, and Saddam Hussein broadcast a television interview days later.61 The attack resulted in one civilian killed and fourteen wounded, including nine women and a child.62

We'll name it the "ZeroJunk" cruise missile.

That way you won't have to worry about any of your tax dollars going to feed poor black kids.