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Old 10-08-2015, 09:14 AM
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I would be one of those people they hate! in spite of the fact I have worked since I was thirteen.
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Old 10-08-2015, 10:57 AM
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I have never taken a nickel from the government, and there is no way I will ever get back what I paid in even if I get some long term illness.

As opposed to the career path of living you entire life off of some social program, or relying on some social program to support your bastard children.

Or, if you didn't do what it takes to be successful take it from somebody who was and give it to you.

In the meantime convincing your dumb ass that the reason you weren't successful had nothing to do with what you put in to it. You just weren't fortunate.

If you buy in to that it is fine with me, but you have to understand that the end result of that is the people producing the wealth eventually will say screw it.


Then who is going to create the next Apple, the government ?

Now that is comical.
Translation:
"Someone might get something for free that I had work my ass off for." With an obligatory dose of Ayn Rand.

This post is is pretty much point for point what the 'pubs feed the masses hereabouts to piss them off into voting for them instead of someone that might actually have their best interests.

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Old 10-08-2015, 11:18 AM
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I have never taken a nickel from the government, and there is no way I will ever get back what I paid in even if I get some long term illness.

Not true. The government helped pay for your education, provided a community to live in, safety and security (fire and police), etc.

As opposed to the career path of living you entire life off of some social program, or relying on some social program to support your bastard children.

Career path is often a result of education or educational opportunities. One has very little control over it.

Or, if you didn't do what it takes to be successful take it from somebody who was and give it to you.

Most of the people do not fall into this category. By and large (90%+) people are not risk takers or their responsibility to their families lively hood and well being prevent them from going up the success ladder.

In the meantime convincing your dumb ass that the reason you weren't successful had nothing to do with what you put in to it. You just weren't fortunate.

Luck is 50% of any one's success. All the talent and hard work does not pay off without luck and timing. This is why most businesses fail.

If you buy in to that it is fine with me, but you have to understand that the end result of that is the people producing the wealth eventually will say screw it.

I wish they would, this will only create more opportunities. What are they going to do with their money? Burn it? As the saying goes, you can't take it with you!

Then who is going to create the next Apple, the government ?

Silicon Valley? Or any number of hot spots in the country and there are quite a few usually close to top universities.


Now that is comical.
The government is not supposed to compete with private enterprise. I thought you would have known that!
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Old 10-08-2015, 11:28 AM
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Whenever I hear someone say they don't take anything from the gov I just have to laugh. People just don't realize how imbedded the gov is in their life.

Every time you drive on a road.... You are " taking from the gov" who made sure that road was built and built to safety codes.

Every time you enter a building you are " taking from the gov" because the gov has made sure that building is ADA accessible and built to standards to keep people safe.

And, every time you eat something, the gov has had regulations in place to make sure that food is not contaminated.

When you sent your children to school.... Or home schooled them..... The gov was there making sure the curriculum was in place and followed.

Everyone " takes from the gov" in one way or the other.
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Old 10-08-2015, 01:02 PM
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What blows my mind is the resentment. Ayn Rand could just spit when she draws her little set-piece dramas of stupid, grasping 'looters.' The whole sour gilded class is consumed with the indignation Dickens illuminated for us with his pompous assholes who sputtered infamy at the hungry child who dared to ask for 'more.'

And Zero's post drips with resentment. What has he got to be so acid about? Are people mean to him? Is his tipple not proper?

Or, perhaps, does he fear that maybe, just maybe, he isn't really the golden boy, annointed of God, blessed with richly earned success due to his sacred, determined, hard hard work? Is there some intimation of plaster under the gilt?

Who has to scream the myth of their wonderfulness, but the man who can't get the whiff of his own shit out of his nostrils? Who has to dress up as Apollo but the man who, despite all 'success,' just isn't satisfied in his own skin?

The roots of narcissism are convictions of it's opposite, aren't they?
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Old 10-08-2015, 01:21 PM
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Whenever I hear someone say they don't take anything from the gov I just have to laugh. People just don't realize how imbedded the gov is in their life.

Every time you drive on a road.... You are " taking from the gov" who made sure that road was built and built to safety codes.

Every time you enter a building you are " taking from the gov" because the gov has made sure that building is ADA accessible and built to standards to keep people safe.

And, every time you eat something, the gov has had regulations in place to make sure that food is not contaminated.

When you sent your children to school.... Or home schooled them..... The gov was there making sure the curriculum was in place and followed.

Everyone " takes from the gov" in one way or the other.
And this is why Libertarianism is such an egocentric and childish ideology.
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Old 10-08-2015, 01:28 PM
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Whenever I hear someone say they don't take anything from the gov I just have to laugh. People just don't realize how imbedded the gov is in their life....
Hell, every time they buy or use product/service from a company subsidized by the government (e.g., oil companies, the aircraft industry) they're "taking from the government."

Simple-minded dipshits.
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Old 10-08-2015, 03:28 PM
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I have never taken a nickel from the government,
Ever used a public roadway?

Ever been to a public school?

Had kids in Public School.

Ever run a business that sold any of it's goods and/or services to a customer that got a government paycheck? Or a government pension, or social security?

Ever worked for a company that sold any of it's goods and/or services to a customer that got a government paycheck? Or a government pension, or social security?

Or had a government contract?

Let's see.

All my income comes from the government.

Either my pension check or my social security.

Let's see, who got a piece of either of those lately?

Lowes did.

Home Depot did.

The grocery store did.

The local Hospital did.

My dentist did.

One of the pharmacies in town did.

The power company did?

The gas station did?

The list goes on and on and on.
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Old 10-08-2015, 03:36 PM
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Actually the military had a huge role in the development of the internet, of which Apple of course needed like a newborn child needs air.
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Old 10-08-2015, 03:39 PM
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You're dealing with blind greed and the illusion of central position. Truth and logic are no match for those.

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Ever used a public roadway?

Ever been to a public school?

Had kids in Public School.

Ever run a business that sold any of it's goods and/or services to a customer that got a government paycheck? Or a government pension, or social security?

Ever worked for a company that sold any of it's goods and/or services to a customer that got a government paycheck? Or a government pension, or social security?

Or had a government contract?

Let's see.

All my income comes from the government.

Either my pension check or my social security.

Let's see, who got a piece of either of those lately?

Lowes did.

Home Depot did.

The grocery store did.

The local Hospital did.

My dentist did.

One of the pharmacies in town did.

The power company did?

The gas station did?

The list goes on and on and on.
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