They're all Thugs - Page 4

djv8ga · #31 07-31-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad

And I would counter that it is not too much to expect that P.O.S.T. certified, trained, observant and able to articulate law enforcement officer who is being paid damned good money plus an excellent fringe benefit package to be able to stay in control of his or her emotions enough not to allow a routine traffic stop to escalate into a violent confrontation.

Yup... + 1.

Zeke · #32 07-31-2015, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad

And I would counter that it is not too much to expect that P.O.S.T. certified, trained, observant and able to articulate law enforcement officer who is being paid damned good money plus an excellent fringe benefit package to be able to stay in control of his or her emotions enough not to allow a routine traffic stop to escalate into a violent confrontation.

Which merely details how out of your depth this is for you: in these situations, an officer HAS stopped things from escalating to a point of public danger by acting in due capacity.

No stop is " routine."

Tom Joad · #33 07-31-2015, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

Which merely details how out of your depth this is for you: in these situations, an officer HAS stopped things from escalating to a point of public danger by acting in due capacity.

No stop is " routine."

Keep fucking that chicken Zeke!

Zeke · #34 07-31-2015, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Keep fucking that chicken Zeke!

So, you truly don't have an argument?

Noted.

donquixote99 · #35 07-31-2015, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

So, you truly don't have an argument?

Noted.

No argument is needed when someone says they trust the judgement of "I'm going to blow a hole in your fucking head!" You are deep into 'affiliation trumps facts' here. Your guy is OK no matter how obviously fucked-up. Why? Because he's your guy.

With this sort of thing being fronted as argument, forget argument. Actual argument is obviously irrelevant.

djv8ga · #36 07-31-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

escalating to a point of public danger by acting in due capacity.

No stop is " routine."

My mistake. For some reason, I was thinking it was an officers duty to serve & protect & that includes the person being pulled over for not using a blinker.

Boreas · #37 07-31-2015, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

But I trust a P.O.S.T. certified, trained, observant and able to articulate law enforcement officer infinitely more than John Q.

In an "officer involved shooting" a cop has a very compelling reason to lie about whether he had a "reasonable fear" for his safety. When the evidence in most cases is the cop's statement and there is no standard of proof beyond that, the cop who murders someone walks.

We saw this in North Charleston where the murderer claimed self defense because his victim "grabbed my taser". Had it not been for the citizen video he would have gotten away with it...... [i]even though a fellow officer actually witnessed the killer drop the taser next to the body.