Who Killed Sandra Bland?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

You apologists...

Bland, who killed herself, had a LONG history of endangering other drivers, owed >$4000 in fines to the State of Illinois and her own family -- the whiners now trying to soak the public for sympathy and, eventually, $$$ -- refused to bail her out.

She'd attempted suicide before, had been cutting herself, was inundated with THC and, likely, shouldn't have possessed a DL to begin with.

This is ALL on her.

Disconnected family and sense of desperation? Maybe. Created by her? Undoubtedly.

She owns her own death.

Maybe all your talking about is the suicide because you know that it became a bad stop the moment that her 4th Amendment rights were violated when the cop exceeded his authority.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Maybe all your talking about is the suicide because you know that it became a bad stop the moment that her 4th Amendment rights were violated when the cop exceeded his authority.

Oh, please.

His reasons for the stop and search were well articulated, especially if a records check supplied him with her jacket.

It's not his fault she became belligerent before the search was over. That was just her acting entitled to break the law while operating a motor vehicle.

You know, her M.O.

Folks need better martyrs: like anyone who actually qualifies as such.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

And of course you blame the victim which makes you.......

Yep, blame the victim is how the game is played.

You harass the Hell out of black people and make sure they have plenty of chickenshit offenses on their record to use a convenient excuse when you kill them.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...e-in-Ferguson#

In 2013, the municipal court in Ferguson — a city of 21,135 people — issued 32,975 arrest warrants for nonviolent offenses, mostly driving violations.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Zeke

His reasons for the stop and search were well articulated, especially if a records check supplied him with her jacket.

OMG!

There are so many black people out there changing lanes without signaling and driving with third brakelights out!

I am so endangered!

Please Mr. Policeman, kill them for me so I can feel safe once more!

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

OMG!

There are so many black people out there changing lanes without signaling and driving with third brakelights out!

I am so endangered!

Please Mr. Policeman, kill them for me so I can feel safe once more!

Before or after she killed someone by drunk driving, again?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Oh, please.

His reasons for the stop and search were well articulated, especially if a records check supplied him with her jacket.

It's not his fault she became belligerent before the search was over. That was just her acting entitled to break the law while operating a motor vehicle.

You know, her M.O.

Folks need better martyrs: like anyone who actually qualifies as such.

What I know is that it isn't against the law to be belligerent with a cop. And definitely not cause for a 4th Amendment violation by the police.

Far as I know "STFU and hand me my ticket, or if you want to keep spewing chunks from your festering piehole and tear up the ticket...I'll be happy to listen to your fucking lecture."....is not cause for a violation of anybody's 4th Amendment rights.

[Rajoo]

Zeke, I am sure that there are a lot of people driving w/o a DL, on a suspended license, no insurance, expired registration and so on. Why we carry insurance for uninsured motorists. How many get stopped and get thrown in jail unless there is an outstanding warrant?

The biggest challenge for large metropolitan areas is the impounding and storage of vehicles. Like these guys can afford or can pay to get their cars out of impound.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Zeke, I am sure that there are a lot of people driving w/o a DL, on a suspended license, no insurance, expired registration and so on. Why we carry insurance for uninsured motorists. How many get stopped and get thrown in jail unless there is an outstanding warrant?

The biggest challenge for large metropolitan areas is the impounding and storage of vehicles. Like these guys can afford or can pay to get their cars out of impound.

It's all part of the revenue generating scam.

http://reason.com/archives/2014/01/0...nt-vs-the-poor

[Ike Bana]

In this case, Encina's legal right to detain Bland as a law enforcement officer ended when he handed her the ticket. She was stopped for a traffic violation. He ran her for wants and warrants and came up empty. She did not commit an illegal act during the traffic detention...and detaining her for a nano-second after handing her the ticket was a violation of her 4th Amendment right to UNREASONABLE SEIZURE OF PERSON—DETENTION during a traffic stop. Smoking a cigarette in your car while you wait for the cop to write his ticked is not an illegal or threatening act.

But Encina didn't like her attitude. When he asked her if she was "...all right..." and then didn't like the answer he got...he was already in violation of her 4th Amendment rights. And he was further in violation with..."Are you done?" and then when he asked her "Do you mind putting out your cigarette?" Ordering her to get out of the car was the most blatant of his violations. He violated her 4th Amendment rights to be detained only as long as required to complete the serving her with the ticket.

Nobody owes a belligerent asshole cop like Brian Encina a nano-second of respect.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

You apologists...

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This is ALL on her.

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She owns her own death.

For a reported ENTP, you sure do sound judgmental....