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07-25-2015, 09:12 PM
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Then one of the armed good guys shoots you dead. Now you are a dead good guy. Great logic. 
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Relax.
That was just a troll post,
I have done some thinking about what I would do if I were caught in a situation like that and I had my gun with me.
What I have determined is that if I was far enough away to survive the initial attack the first thing I am going to look to do is exit that place ASAP. If that's not a viable option I'm going to look for some cover and get down low and try to hide. Then I'll take out my gun, cock back the hammer and stay put hoping to get a clear easy shot at the shooter from an ambush position. And then only in defense of myself or any members of my family that are there. I would not risk giving away my position by taking a shot to defend any strangers that I don't know. I'm looking to survive, not be a fucken hero. Of course I can never know what I would actually do unless I was in that situation, but I hope to Hell I wouldn't try to gunfight the guy like John Wayne.
I'm just being honest here. I doubt seriously any of these macho gun nut idiots would do any different.
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07-25-2015, 09:23 PM
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Relax.
That was just a troll post,
I have done some thinking about what I would do if I were caught in a situation like that and I had my gun with me.
What I have determined is that if I was far enough away to survive the initial attack the first thing I am going to look to do is exit that place ASAP. If that's not a viable option I'm going to look for some cover and get down low and try to hide. Then I'll take out my gun, cock back the hammer and stay put hoping to get a clear easy shot at the shooter from an ambush position. And then only in defense of myself or any members of my family that are there. I would not risk giving away my position by taking a shot to defend any strangers that I don't know. No John Wayne shit from me.
I'm just being honest here. I doubt seriously any of these macho gun nut idiots would do any different.
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Sorry, your logic above seems reasonable though damage has probably been done. Best solution may be to have a sniper in every theater next to the projectionist (or is that automated?). Will create a lot of jobs for returning veterans who are sharpshooters (not kidding). Of course, the movie goers would dwindle if that happens.
I just do not like going to theaters, last two movies I saw in a theater were 'Driving Miss Daisy' and 'Slumdog Millionaire'. I do have a decent home theater setup, but of course the sound nor picture quality will ever come close to a theater, especially from streaming.
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07-25-2015, 09:40 PM
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Sorry, your logic above seems reasonable though damage has probably been done. Best solution may be to have a sniper in every theater next to the projectionist (or is that automated?). Will create a lot of jobs for returning veterans who are sharpshooters (not kidding). Of course, the movie goers would dwindle if that happens.
I just do not like going to theaters, last two movies I saw in a theater were 'Driving Miss Daisy' and 'Slumdog Millionaire'. I do have a decent home theater setup, but of course the sound nor picture quality will ever come close to a theater, especially from streaming.
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The point I was trying to make is that the good guy with a gun stopping the bad guy with a gun is a bullshit scenario. I'm pro-gun but I know the only reason I'm going to try to use that gun is to save my own ass or someone in my immediate family.
In reality I suspect we're going to see metal detectors being put in at Theater entrances. That sucks.
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07-26-2015, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
The point I was trying to make is that the good guy with a gun stopping the bad guy with a gun is a bullshit scenario. I'm pro-gun but I know the only reason I'm going to try to use that gun is to save my own ass or someone in my immediate family.
In reality I suspect we're going to see metal detectors being put in at Theater entrances. That sucks.
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OK but we all know the point constantly being made by the right has nothing to do with your point. What we're hearing is that the gun toters will be stopping the carnage.
To which I say:
I figure I got twice the chance of ending up dead if I'm in the middle of a fire fight between the homicidal lunatic and the homicidal vigilante lunatic, than if I'm just running away from the homicidal lunatic.
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07-26-2015, 12:33 PM
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OK but we all know the point constantly being made by the right has nothing to do with your point. What we're hearing is that the gun toters will be stopping the carnage.
To which I say:
I figure I got twice the chance of ending up dead if I'm in the middle of a fire fight between the homicidal lunatic and the homicidal vigilante lunatic, than if I'm just running away from the homicidal lunatic.
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You know the more I think about it, I believe I'd be more likely to act heroically if I was unarmed.
I mean if I'm armed, I think I would hunker down and use my gun for defense only.
On the other hand if I'm unarmed, I'm basically fucked, so it comes down to how I want to go out.
Do I want to be shot dead like a cowering dog?
Not really, I think I'd prefer to go down in a bansai charge.
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07-26-2015, 01:08 PM
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You know the more I think about it, I believe I'd be more likely to act heroically if I was unarmed.
I mean if I'm armed, I think I would hunker down and use my gun for defense only.
On the other hand if I'm unarmed, I'm basically fucked, so it comes down to how I want to go out.
Do I want to be shot dead like a cowering dog?
Not really, I think I'd prefer to go down in a bansai charge.
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07-26-2015, 01:13 PM
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I am eternally in your debt.
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Thanks Ike.
I've enjoyed trolling my ass off in this thread and it's gratifying to know that someone appreciates it.
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07-26-2015, 05:51 PM
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If background checks are done on everyone, a lot of people may wind up to be disqualified from owning a gun. This of course reduces the market size, which is counter to a market economy such as ours. See the logic? 
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Right, Got it. It's the American way to feed the market even when the market is warped and self destructive.
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07-26-2015, 05:56 PM
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There are some things you can do to avoid that situation.
You need to scan the crowd.
Look for dudes that are by themselves.
In all my life I have never gone to a movie by myself.
What kind of dude goes to a movie by himself?
A creeper, that's what kind.
So if you see a dude by himself you need to sit somewhere where you can keep an eye on him. Maybe he's just a harmless creeper who just wants to jack off to the movie in the dark. Or maybe he's a mass murderer.
You can't be sure, but you need to watch him.
Have your gun ready.
If he does anything suspicious, shoot him.
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I am that creepy guy who goes to movies alone. No, I'm not jerking off or packing heat. I'm just creep, I'm a weirdo.............
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo92iIPOYY4
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07-26-2015, 06:07 PM
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In reality I suspect we're going to see metal detectors being put in at Theater entrances. That sucks.
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You are probably right. Metal detectors in theaters may just be the only option. Too easy for a wacko to shoot at people in a dark theater and very few will know what is going on till too late.
I know that we have to go through metal detectors for NBA games in the Oakland Arena for quite a few years now.
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