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Old 04-24-2015, 11:53 AM
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Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the content in the book was sourced from individuals with Dem ties, particularly with the way the media has jumped on this. I suspect that there are a fair number of Dems that either:
  • are concerned about a Clinton cadidacy and putting money into it because the Clinton sleaze factor - as history shows - can surface at any time.
  • would vastly prefer to see Warren as the leading candidate.
Yaaaaaaawn.

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Old 04-24-2015, 11:58 AM
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Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the content in the book was sourced from individuals with Dem ties, particularly with the way the media has jumped on this. I suspect that there are a fair number of Dems that either:
  • are concerned about a Clinton cadidacy and putting money into it because the Clinton sleaze factor - as history shows - can surface at any time.
  • would vastly prefer to see Warren as the leading candidate.
What would or wouldn't surprise you is completely irrelevant.

As for the "Clinton sleaze factor", could you provide us with anything that the Clintons have been smeared with that was ever established as factual? And, if factual, like Whitewater, that ever pointed to anything "sleazy" that the Clintons ever actually did?
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What would or wouldn't surprise you is completely irrelevant.
You're response doesn't surprise me.
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You're response doesn't surprise me.
Which is also irrelevant.

Are you going to answer my question?
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You're response doesn't surprise me.
So, you've got nothing, eh Mike?
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What would or wouldn't surprise you is completely irrelevant.

As for the "Clinton sleaze factor", could you provide us with anything that the Clintons have been smeared with that was ever established as factual? And, if factual, like Whitewater, that ever pointed to anything "sleazy" that the Clintons ever actually did?
Glad you agree that Whitewater was sleazy.

I love some of the entries on this page. Maybe this will help you understand where some of your contemporaries on the left side of the aisle are coming from.

https://www.facebook.com/demsagainsthillary

Then again, maybe Koch's money is behind this site too?
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:39 PM
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Glad you agree that Whitewater was sleazy.

I love some of the entries on this page. Maybe this will help you understand where some of your contemporaries on the left side of the aisle are coming from.

https://www.facebook.com/demsagainsthillary

Then again, maybe Koch's money is behind this site too?
So, you got nothing.

And yes, it probably is a Koch operation or a Breitbart operation or an O'Keefe operation or an American Crossroads operation or.......
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All the WaPo and NYT have done so far is to confirm the existence of some of the "dots" which Schweizer himself is apparently unwilling to say can be connected.

The question we should be asking about both these books is "cui bono", who benefits. As things stand, Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush are the most likely nominees. Who would be the most likely beneficiary/beneficiaries of a take down of both front-runners? That would be one of the second string Republican candidates, someone like Walker, Paul or Cruz. Having both the Democratic and Republican front-runners out of the race would grease the skids for them to sleaze their way into the White House.

Now, who among those second stringers has a connection to Schweizer? Well, not Cruz or Paul but Walker does via the Koch brothers who want Walker to be president and who are huge funders of Schweizer's organization, the so-called Government Accountability Institute.

You are giving me nightmares...if something derailed Clinton I would hate it if one of those guys got in.
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Rubio only 2 points behind Clinton, but it's still early.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/23/politi...oll/index.html
Yeah like a year and a half early. Rubio will not be able to get the Latino vote because he has already done a Romney by running away from his own Senate bill.

Put him in the Herbert Cain column.
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:01 PM
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And yes, it probably is a Koch operation or a Breitbart operation or an O'Keefe operation or an American Crossroads operation or.......
Right. And here's more Koch money at work. They've bought off the Common Cause folks!

http://www.commoncause.org/press/pre...oundation.html
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