South Carolina Officer Is Charged With Murder in Black Man’s Death

[Zeke]

If the officer felt threatened for his life or believed there was undue threat to the public at large?

Then this was the right call.

You can hate the law, you can even say he made a poor decision, but the ONLY damning factor here is moving the Taser.

If he hadn't done that and stuck to his (proverbial) guns while offering medical aid?

Then he'd -- appropriately -- walk.

The issue here is the officer's lack of commitment to his argument not his action of firing.

[merrylander]

No one here hates the law so stop with that bull chit. We hate murderers and this was clearly murder. He did not move the Taser, just dropped it He shot Scott in cold blood and then lied his head off.

If my mind ever starts working like yours appears to I think, well I hope, I would go out behind the barn and kill myself.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by merrylander

No one here hates the law so stop with that bull chit. We hate murderers and this was clearly murder. He did not move the Taser, just dropped it He shot Scott in cold blood and then lied his head off.

If my mind ever starts working like yours appears to I think, well I hope, I would go out behind the barn and kill mtself.

Well, *that* is an emphatic way of saying 'there's something wrong with you, boy.'

But there is something very wrong with someone who's willing to excuse the gunning down of a perfectly-decent long-term-employed non-criminal citizen, whose 'issue' was fear of going (unconstitutionally) to debtor's prison.

The victim was not an 'undue threat to the public at large,' and suggesting there was the slightest basis for thinking so is just nuts.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

If the officer felt threatened for his life or believed there was undue threat to the public at large?

Then this was the right call.

You can hate the law, you can even say he made a poor decision, but the ONLY damning factor here is moving the Taser.

If he hadn't done that and stuck to his (proverbial) guns while offering medical aid?

Then he'd -- appropriately -- walk.

The issue here is the officer's lack of commitment to his argument not his action of firing.

You're just flat out wrong Zeke. Slager's own chief has stated that he violated protocol in that situation when he shot a fleeing unarmed subject in the back, who had been stopped for a vehicular infraction, not a felony. Not simply when he moved the taser. Who are we to believe, Zeke?

You or Eddie Driggers, the police chief of North Charleston, SC.

A shooting like this is only a good shoot if certain criteria have been met. Law enforcement professional in print or on the TeeVee have said the same thing, and addressed the criteria in the same way:
1. The subject was in the act of a felony. No.
2. The subject assaulted a police officer. No.
3. The subject was armed. No.
4. The police officer had clear evidence that in the act of fleeing, the subject was a danger to other officers or the public at large. Every law enforcement professional who's comments I've read or seen has stated that Scott did not fulfill this point of criteria.

Who are we to believe, Zeke? You or all these police chiefs, commanders, and other active or retired law enforcement professionals?

Simple question, simple answer Zeke. You or everybody else?

You're out here completely on your own, Zeke.

[sheltiedave]

Zeke, as usual, is flying his own personal freak flag and whipping his dong out while driving down the freeway, saying "Look at me! Look at me!"

Zeke loves it when criminals get killed, and officers start fearing for their lives, and protecting the public from shoehorn wielding 95 year olds, toy pistol waving teens, cigar stealing thugs, cigarette selling mofos, and non support paying sugar daddies.

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

I don't understand why the black cop that did not speak out immediately about the planted taser is not also suspended and under investigation for being an accomplice in the planting of the Taser, ie interfering with a felony crime scene.

If he were a civilian and did that at the scene of a cop shooting, he would be hanging today.

I agree he can and probably should be charged. Hopefully he will be, but it may take time.

Legal procedures can vary from state to state. Sometimes when charges are made, the obvious charges are made immediately. After evidence is reviewed more charges can be made, but tying them to the same case can mean many clerical changes, all of which have to be done by a judge in court. Adding charges to a case often means dropping original charges and refiling the case with additional charges included. There are many aspects of criminal court proceedings that are not well known by J Q Public, and aren't shown on Law and Order.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Zeke, as usual, is flying his own personal freak flag and whipping his dong out while driving down the freeway, saying "Look at me! Look at me!"

Zeke loves it when criminals get killed, and officers start fearing for their lives, and protecting the public from shoehorn wielding 95 year olds, toy pistol waving teens, cigar stealing thugs, cigarette selling mofos, and non support paying sugar daddies.

Well said.

And again, a number of law enforcement professionals who have been interviewed have expressed the opinion that if the witness had not been there with his smartphone, this thing would have gone down as a "good shoot."

[Zeke]

Keep flailing.

All an officer needs is the barest belief that a guy, in this case a convicted violent criminal, is a personal or public threat.

Watch this charge evaporate and wail.

Your prison time fantasies are just that.

If he doesn't move the Taser? Then he completely walks, appropriately.

[merrylander]

Oh he will probably walk just like the New York strangler and Darren Wilson. The prosecution will mishandle the case because he is one of theirs.

But it was still murder.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Keep flailing.

All an officer needs is the barest belief that a guy, in this case a convicted violent criminal, is a personal or public threat.

Watch this charge evaporate and wail.

Your prison time fantasies are just that.

If he doesn't move the Taser? Then he completely walks, appropriately.

That would be a "Yes believe me. Every person actually working in law enforcement who has spoken out on this, including the chief of police of North Charlesron, SC, is fulla shit.", from Zeke.