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Old 04-08-2015, 10:53 AM
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Zeke, I'm not generating a weak straw man. I'm using your previous argument against yourself.

When you do a rubber and glue situation, in order to be internally consistent, you need to say I will wait for the evidence to establish the facts.
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Old 04-08-2015, 11:03 AM
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IMHO, Zeke catches too much flax here for his stand on officers. I find he brings a refreshing perspective to us liberals on this issue.
Refreshing?

I don't think so.

Disturbing?

That's more like it.

The value of his posts regarding law enforcement is that they provide an excellent example of what's wrong with Police culture today. There are way too many Cops out there that think like Zeke.
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Old 04-08-2015, 11:11 AM
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Zeke, I'm not generating a weak straw man. I'm using your previous argument against yourself.
And publicly failing.

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When you do a rubber and glue situation, in order to be internally consistent, you need to say I will wait for the evidence to establish the facts.
Facts are established. If you "take" an officer's duty weapon, you are an immediate threat to society and get the next one in the force continuum.

You lose.
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Old 04-08-2015, 11:27 AM
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Fingerprints, Zeke, fingerprints.

You are dancing complete around the claim you just hoisted that fingerprints conclusively would establish the cop's innocence of a drop gun in the sc case, and yet you foisted that fingerprints would not be on wilsons gun, despite wilsons lawyered up testimony regarding his gun.

You want to have it both ways, and always to the advantage of cops.
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Old 04-08-2015, 11:31 AM
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Fingerprints, Zeke, fingerprints.

You are dancing complete around the claim you just hoisted that fingerprints conclusively would establish the cop's innocence of a drop gun in the sc case, and yet you foisted that fingerprints would not be on wilsons gun, despite wilsons lawyered up testimony regarding his gun.

You want to have it both ways, and always to the advantage of cops.
You claims grow even more spurious...

1. Witness.
2. Argument.
3. Shots.
4. Evasion.

Your credibility is becoming Joadian...
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:38 PM
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No claims at all. Logic and consistency, two elements you are mostly missing.
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:43 PM
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No claims at all. Logic and consistency, two elements you are mostly missing.
In your bizarro world.
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Old 04-08-2015, 01:32 PM
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No.

You're the one inventing them from the ether, just like your typical (lack of) argument.
False assertions.

Who the hell do you think you're kidding? Besides yourself.
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Old 04-08-2015, 01:52 PM
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This thread has become nothing but an excuse for trading insults. Thus, it will be closed. There are a few others that are surviving by a thread because of a few actually on-point comments.
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