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03-21-2015, 10:28 PM
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To be fair, the 'Hands Up, Don't Shoot' meme grew out of an eyewitness account of the shooting. There was a white out of town construction worker who said that Mike Brown had his hands up when shot. Correct or not, apparently the DOJ disagreed in their report.
If one good thing came out of this, it's shown that race relations in America have a long, long way to go.
edit - Beat me to it Tom. Thanks for the link.
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WaPo just gave "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" 4 Pinocchios.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...n-in-ferguson/
But we also care about setting the record straight. Investigators have overwhelmingly rejected witness accounts that Brown had his hands up in a surrender before being shot execution-style. The DOJ has concluded Wilson did not know whether Brown was armed, acted out of self-defense and was justified in killing Brown. The majority of witnesses told federal investigators that the initial claims that Brown’s hands were up were not accurate. “Hands up, don’t shoot” did not happen in Brown’s killing, and it is a characterization that deserves Four Pinocchios. Politicians should step carefully if they try to highlight this expression in the future.
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03-21-2015, 10:33 PM
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I'm sure you have a point in there somewhere Mike. Spit it out.
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03-21-2015, 11:44 PM
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Thanks for the good read.
Looks like Zeke was right.
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From jump.
But the ineffectual whining from the "officers are stormtroopers" crowd won't cease...
Dead.
This thing is D-E-A-D.
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03-22-2015, 12:01 AM
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You've never been right. About anything.
If you say the sun is hot, you're wrong, because you'll start wrong, and you'll never get it fixed.
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03-22-2015, 10:01 AM
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Zeke For Police Chief Of Ferguson!
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03-22-2015, 10:20 AM
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I think we should think 'fictional comedy' for his next job, for a number of reasons.
Perhaps he could run the women's cell block in the next season of 'Orange.'
Or has he been doing that straight along?
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03-23-2015, 07:35 AM
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Tell it to Finn, he threw the first punch.
As usual.
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That would be my experience as well. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who's notices that it doesn't seem to be much of a problem with the rank and file hereabouts until somebody decides not to lay down and die behind it...and throws back.
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03-23-2015, 07:42 AM
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That said...right at the beginning of this thing here's what I said...
If you don't want to end up with your face in the pavement, blood flowing down your face, and getting cuffed with a knee on the back of your neck...just do what the cop tells you.
If you don't want to end up dead, don't go after a cop.
In Michael Brown's case he would be alive today and raking in a million bucks, like Martese Johnson will be doing before too long, instead of dead. But he was too stupid to limit his behavior to back talk and resisting.
This does not hold hard and fast for demented 92 year old's, or the mentally ill. Or when the cop has a history of abuse or racism. Nor does it hold too well when a specific community's PD has a documented history of abuse and rampant profiling.
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03-23-2015, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
That said...right at the beginning of this thing here's what I said...
If you don't want to end up with your face in the pavement, blood flowing down your face, and getting cuffed with a knee on the back of your neck...just do what the cop tells you.
If you don't want to end up dead, don't go after a cop.
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Thanks dad, heard you the first time.
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
In Michael Brown's case he would be alive today and raking in a million bucks, like Martese Johnson will be doing before too long, instead of dead. But he was too stupid to limit his behavior to back talk and resisting.
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How to make a million - back talk/resist LEO. The prerequisites are but two: do it in the right place and be appropriately groomed/dressed.
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
This does not hold hard and fast for demented 92 year old's, or the mentally ill. Or when the cop has a history of abuse or racism. Nor does it hold too well when a specific community's PD has a documented history of abuse and rampant profiling.
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Well said.
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03-23-2015, 12:09 PM
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How to make a million - back talk/resist LEO. The prerequisites are but two: do it in the right place and be appropriately groomed/dressed. 
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When Martese decided to stand up in front of the student body and do the 2015 version of Rodney King (Can't we all just...uh...get along?)...he did have the opportunity to actually owned up, y'know? But no way. Where's the money in that? No money in saying...listen y'all go back to class where you belong. I was drunk and acting like an asshole and I got taken down and my head busted open just like any drunk white guy would get his head busted open in the same circumstances. Yeh...sure. Martese is going to make the quarter-mil that Elizabeth Daly raked in look like chump-change.
Of course Elizabeth was at a distinct disadvantage:
She looks like she's straight off the boat from Cork.
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