Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

It'll also get your vehicle vandalized.

Back when my daughter first started driving I gave her my old truck as a hand me down and she immediately plastered the thing with leftie stickers.

I told her not to, but she wouldn't listen. Sure enough, within a couple of weeks one of the tail lights got busted out. Cost $100 bucks to get a replacement because I had to buy the whole unit, they don't sell the lenses by themselves like they did back in the day. Shit this was back in the late 90's. It would probably be $300 bucks today.

Where TF were you living...Tulsa?

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Racist much? Not only is it racist but it's also nonsensical if for no other reason that the strength of the FPD is nowhere near 10% of the total population to say nothing of the equitable ratio of black to white officers.

Ferguson has 53 officers, three of whom are black. That's a little less than 6% black in a town where 2/3 of the population is black.

So, the relevant challenge is: "Find me 6.7 qualified black police officers for every ten officers."

If you bullshit the context and crew up the meaning AND math.

If the population is 67% black, 6.7 out of every ten citizens should be qualified police officers of color for the ratio to remain the same in the population and police force.

Go find me 6.7 qualified black police applicants out of every ten citizens of Ferguson, MO.

NO CHANCE.

I'd bet a higher percentage are felons or have an outstanding warrant than are qualified to be a sworn officer.

[sheltiedave]

Zeke, even if we played your silly little reindeer game of only hiring the black officers from the Ferguson boundaries(while hiring white officers from anywhere), I'm sure I could run a hiring event and find ten black men and women from Ferguson with prior military/security experience who would make superb officers. Heck, I could find fifty folks who would make good officers.

The fact that you couldn't do it either makes you blind to good people, or racist as hell, as you have categorically stated it is impossible to do such on multiple occasions.

We could start off with four of the six folks I know who had their businesses burned down, that do not have criminal backgrounds. You better watch out though, because I just doubled the black presence of the force. Things are going to get jiggity.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

If you bullshit the context and crew up the meaning AND math.

If the population is 67% black, 6.7 out of every ten citizens should be qualified police officers of color for the ratio to remain the same in the population and police force.

Go find me 6.7 qualified black police applicants out of every ten citizens of Ferguson, MO.

NO CHANCE.

I'd bet a higher percentage are felons or have an outstanding warrant than are qualified to be a sworn officer.

Stupid. You need to find 6.7 qualified black police applicants out of every 10 citizens of Ferguson ONLY if you plan to hire the entire black population of the town as police.

Let's put it another way. Let's say Furgesson has 49 white officers and 4 black officers. For a force of 53 to reflect the city's demographics, it should be 67% black. This would require 36 black officers on the force, rounding up. So to do it in one fell swoop (which you wouldn't), 32 whites would need to be replaced with 32 blacks.

Your task then, if for some odd reason you were confining yourself to black candidates from Furgesson, would be to find 32 qualified candidates out of a black population of some 14,000. That would be one for every 438 black residents.

6.7 out of 10? Your logical ability has deserted you for some reason. Suggest you go on a retreat somewhere and figure out why.

[sheltiedave]

He has a hard time figuring out the PD is under 60 officers. Lol

[sheltiedave]

Please read the Ferguson article in today's Post-Dispatch at www.stltoday.com
It validates virtually every point I have made in the past six months, and shows how the table was set for both Brown and the ensuing unrest.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

The fact that you couldn't do it either makes you blind to good people, or racist as hell, as you have categorically stated it is impossible to do such on multiple occasions.

It's Stockholm syndrome commingled with an authoritarian personality. Zeke is a native-American in a society which is profoundly racist. His racist attitude toward African-Americans is an attempt to curry favor with the white power structure. (See? I'm a racist just like you!) The saddest part of this is his expressed contempt for AIM, Leonard Peltier, Russell Means and any "blanket Indian" who fights for their rights.

John

[Rajoo]

Municipal and township police departments employed an average of 2.3 full-time officers per 1,000 residents. About half of local police departments employed fewer than 10 sworn personnel, and about three-fourths served a population of less than 10,000.
Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) - Local Police
www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=71

So according to the above, there are more cops in Ferguson than average. Wonder why? More collectors would be my guess and why not, if it was a revenue generating setup. The chief of police and the mayor should be prosecuted.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Boreas

It's Stockholm syndrome commingled with an authoritarian personality. Zeke is a native-American in a society which is profoundly racist. His racist attitude toward African-Americans is an attempt to curry favor with the white power structure. (See? I'm a racist just like you!) The saddest part of this is his expressed contempt for AIM, Leonard Peltier, Russell Means and any "blanket Indian" who fights for their rights.

John

That's complete bullshit but I do complement you on having a theory, one that even appears plausible if not analyzed with too much scrutiny.

The last sentence is worthy of a thread, if you feel interested. You ever meet or correspond with those guys? Or try (there are none) to catalog AIM successes?

I have.

Peltier and Means have done NOTHING for Native people, the first is a coward and the second was a blowhard drunkard.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

It's Stockholm syndrome commingled with an authoritarian personality. Zeke is a native-American in a society which is profoundly racist. His racist attitude toward African-Americans is an attempt to curry favor with the white power structure. (See? I'm a racist just like you!) The saddest part of this is his expressed contempt for AIM, Leonard Peltier, Russell Means and any "blanket Indian" who fights for their rights.

John

Maybe Russell Means. Leonard Peltier is a fucking murderer and is right where he belongs. Or maybe not...he probably belongs getting the shot years ago. And as long as AIM is spewing the "political prisoner" bullshit, AIM is basically no better than Peltier.

“The motherfucker was begging for his life, but I shot him anyway.” - L. Peltier

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