Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Not since you started using the cameras, anyhow.

Question;

Just out of curiosity; Was Sheriff Joe in favor of the cameras?

Dave

I've never heard him comment on it. My guess is he would have them if he wanted them.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

It is a heck of a lot better tool than a gun. Cameras keep both perps and cops honest, and there are a lot fewer liberties taken by both parties when both parties are on candid camera.

Only after they are forced to be honest as in the Cleveland killing of that boy. When his sister tried to come to his aid after they shot him the cops handcuffed her and tossed her in the back of a patrol car. No one aided the boy until an FBI agent arrived on the scene. He died in hospital so perhaps with prompt aid his life may have been saved. That part of the film was only released after pressure was applied.

[Zeke]

An officer's job, especially if compelled to use deadly force, is not to "provide aid" to those whom force was used against. An officer's job is to provide public safety by securing the scene.

Once the scene is secure -- like, say, by removing uber emotional family to the back of a squad car -- then an officer's mind can turn to aid.

That's the math.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

An officer's job, especially if compelled to use deadly force, is not to "provide aid" to those whom force was used against. An officer's job is to provide public safety by securing the scene.

Once the scene is secure -- like, say, by removing uber emotional family to the back of a squad car -- then an officer's mind can turn to aid.

That's the math.

Again you substitute process for humanity. All robocop all the time.

"Not their job" to keep a kid they shot from dying!?! You DARE to offer such an excuse?

I would fire a person who used the 'not my job' excuse for failing to pick up a pop can in a work area.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Zeke

An officer's job, especially if compelled to use deadly force, is not to "provide aid" to those whom force was used against. An officer's job is to provide public safety by securing the scene.

Once the scene is secure -- like, say, by removing uber emotional family to the back of a squad car -- then an officer's mind can turn to aid.

That's the math.

Zeke - stuff it.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Again you substitute process for humanity. All robocop all the time.

"Not their job" to keep a kid they shot from dying!?! You DARE to offer such an excuse?

I would fire a person who used the 'not my job' excuse for failing to pick up a pop can in a work area.

1. Kid behaves in such a way that demands lethal force?
2. There's no going back.

Then, if you lose control of a situation because you are trying to "assist" someone whose own behavior demanded the initial action? And an actual innocent gets hurt?

You're out of your element...

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Zeke - stuff it.

Try thinking.

You're responsibility is NOT to the individual who forced you to shoot him...

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

We must not have bad cops.

We must not have bad Presidents or bad Senators and Congressmen either. But somehow we manage to have those as well.

While I'm on the subject, I suppose we shouldn't have bad gas mileage, bad air, bad ground water, or bad pesticide laced food...including bad sushi either. So it goes.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

I've never heard him comment on it. My guess is he would have them if he wanted them.

And even if he doesn't want them.

MCSO is being required to use body cams by court order.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...eras/18040371/

This comes after Arpaio banned their use.

http://www.kpho.com/story/25583148/m...g-body-cameras

No word on whether Arpaio will be wearing one.

John

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Try thinking.

You're responsibility is NOT to the individual who forced you to shoot him...

The dark prince of apologistics continually finding new and unique ways of expressing himself.

No wonder we keep identifying Zeke as a liberal...people who shoot other people are forced to do so by the victims. No personal responsibility for utilizing an alternative to blowing somebody's brains out when you don't like their behavior, is required.