Terrorists in France Create Outrage

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

So the Islamic world is practicing political correctness?
See no terrorists, see no terrorism. We are a religion of peace.
Now where have we heard this line before? Soon after the 9/11 attacks this statement was parroted non stop with little to no conviction. And here we are 13 years later and what has changed?

Here is a story the Islamists believe. It's not so bad a story, as stories go. You may not believe it, but they do. And they won't stop believing it very easily.

How many people change their minds around here much? See what I mean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDeJhTR1_-A

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

It's fifty years of this bullshit don. It's long past time for a hint of outrage coming out of the mainstream Muslim community. As far as your "ISIL-think" comment is concerned, you can attempt to insult me any fucking way you like don...in the grand scheme of things it matters not one goddamn whit to me.

You don't get it. I'm not trying to insult you. I'm trying to get through to you.

And register how appalled at your hate speech I am. Ghods man, the ISIL are bad people who cut off heads of people they don't like. And you say explicitly you want them shredded, and you think you're better?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Here is a story the Islamists believe. It's not so bad a story, as stories go. You may not believe it, but they do. And they won't stop believing it very easily.

How many people change their minds around here much? See what I mean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDeJhTR1_-A

So who is stopping them from their belief system? It's 2015 and if a people want to believe what is written in a book verbatim, who is going to change their minds. But some of us delude our selves into thinking we can.

How we soon we forget the new found freedom from the Arab spring. Just about every country wanted to go backwards to Charia law.

[Oerets]

I see this whole issue can be summed up as the men use to a total control over the women and children see their grip going away. Going away because once the women and young see another way of life, they no longer are so easily controlled.



Barney

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You don't get it. I'm not trying to insult you. I'm trying to get through to you.

And register how appalled at your hate speech I am. Ghods man, the ISIL are bad people who cut off heads of people they don't like. And you say explicitly you want them shredded, and you think you're better?

Unbelievable. The Islamists talk about killing every Jew in Israel for 50 years and there's not a peep out of you people, but when I suggest that a group that beheads people for fun and murders villages full of women and children are fucking animals, and you're accusing me of hate speech. Just fucking unbelievable, Don. Yep I say I'm better. Im not in the same league...not in the same goddamn universe. So you go on ahead and insult me for a third fucking time now Don, 'cause at this point I've had a gut fulla you as well.

[donquixote99]

Your dislike of me at this point is, fortunately, your problem. I'm sorry to distress you, it's not my goal, but I do have a goal of speaking out against hate. I keep hearing that it's bad not to do that.

Since what I say is so outlandish, so unbelievable, what's your theory as to why I say it? Do I hate you, and so just want to hurt you? Are Muslims paying me to discredit you? Am I insane?

Or is it possible that you aren't evaluating my ideas very well, and I'm actually a reasonable guy?

[HarmanKardon]

Originally Posted by Boreas

And Malachi/Malachai is revered in both faiths.

Chris, what are your thoughts on the recent anti-Muslim demonstrations in Dresden, Köln and Berlin?

John

It is a shame, such a shame, but it is a movement of people who are dissatisfied with so many different things in their life and now the islam is the scapegoat which is certainly complete nonsense. So they are demonstating under an agitatorious leadership against our asyl policy and the leader of this movement stimulate the xenophobian tendencies. I ask myself how many of these demonstrators got higher education...

The biggest demonstrations are in the city of Dresden, which is the capital of the district Thühringen. In this district live less then 4000 Moslems (2%). On the other side, in Köln or Berlin we got a pretty high percentage of Moslems, but the Pegida demostrations are not succesful there.

There is a huge Anti-Pegida movement all over Germany and this is the real face of the tolerant German population. In the Internet 1000000 people signed an Anite-Pegida petition, so you see there is no future for this reactionary movement.

[HarmanKardon]

"Allah is the greatest. We take revenge for him!" So when he is the greatest why doesen't he do the job by himself?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

It is a shame, such a shame, but it is a movement of people who are dissatisfied with so many different things in their life and now the islam is the scapegoat which is certainly complete nonsense. So they are demonstating under an agitatorious leadership against our asyl policy and the leader of this movement stimulate the xenophobian tendencies. I ask myself how many of these demonstrators got higher education...

The biggest demonstrations are in the city of Dresden, which is the capital of the district Thühringen. In this district live less then 4000 Moslems (2%). On the other side, in Köln or Berlin we got a pretty high percentage of Moslems, but the Pegida demostrations are not succesful there.

There is a huge Anti-Pegida movement all over Germany and this is the real face of the tolerant German population. In the Internet 1000000 people signed an Anite-Pegida petition, so you see there is no future for this reactionary movement.

Yes, we have our own Bachmann here (Michele). Xenophobia is one of the arrows in her quiver too.

The PEGIDA seem to be part of, or influenced, by the broader far right German Identity Movement. These groups seem to be popping up all over Europe and even enjoying electoral success. We have our Tea Party, of course, but at least so far, they haven't exhibited the militancy of Jobbik in Hungary, the Romanian Noua Dreaptă or the Banderist Right Sector in Ukraine.

Weirdly, members of the "1%" biker gangs in Germany and other countries are taking direct action. There's a growing number who have traveled to Syria and the Kurdistan Region to take on Daesh directly.

John

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Your dislike of me at this point is, fortunately, your problem. I'm sorry to distress you, it's not my goal, but I do have a goal of speaking out against hate. I keep hearing that it's bad not to do that.

Since what I say is so outlandish, so unbelievable, what's your theory as to why I say it? Do I hate you, and so just want to hurt you? Are Muslims paying me to discredit you? Am I insane?

Or is it possible that you aren't evaluating my ideas very well, and I'm actually a reasonable guy?

OK then...lets get this done...

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You don't get it. I'm not trying to insult you. I'm trying to get through to you.

Are you a parent don? If you are, for the sake of your children, I'm hoping that, as a reasonable parent, at some point you realized that you couldn't force them into intellectual compliance through scolding and shaming.

And if you realized that...why TF would you think that it would work with me? You're not my goddamn mother, don.

No don...you're not insane, but at some point if you don't knock this shit off with me, you're gonna have a difficult time ever convincing me that you're not a lousy parent.



That said...here's my beef. It's come to the point where there's no reasoning with these people. It's time to root out the sociopaths and remove them. Physically remove them with extreme prejudice. There are problems with all organized religions. They're basically filled with religious bigots who believe theirs is the only true belief and, to use Muslim lingo, everybody else is an infidel. Throughout history, one religion or another has been the worst of them. Right now, it's Islam. The amount and severity of extremism in Islam, in the religion and in the culture, has become a problem for the rest of the world. It's been so since the end of WWII...I see no sign of it going away any time soon.

What do you need to see? Another kidnapping of 200 little Nigerian girls, who if they've not already been sold into the sex-slave market for operating funds, or simply handed over to Boka Haram fighters as sexual payment for their willingness to slaughter innocent people, then they're all dead. Boko Haram has caused a quarter of a million people to flee their homes in northern Nigeria.

Do you need to see another Beruit barracks bombing? Another WTC bombing? Another 9/11?

This isn't enough to convince any reasonable person that there is a fundamental religious and cultural problem with Islam? If not...how about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rorist_attacks
And this only goes back to 1980.

You think you'll ever hear a thing from "Hend" on the Mirror website about what the problems might be in Islam that has generated this history of murder, mayhem and other abuses? Anybody anywhere heard anything from anybody in the Muslim community about the flaws in Islam or the flaws in cultural Islam that makes it vulnerable to this much horrific worldwide behavior? The only thing I've ever heard out of anybody are the few brave women like Malala Yousafzai, who almost paid for her comments with her life, and other women openly admitting that a flaw in the Quran and in Islamic culture has caused massive maltreatment of women in the culture.

There's a problem with Islam. The sociopaths are taking over. And the world should wake up to the fact that we've seen this not so long ago, when a vulnerable German culture that felt it had been victimized by the rest of the world after the Great War, handed over the reigns of government to the sociopaths. Marginally bad outcome there, eh don?

Muslims need to hitch up their shorts and start admitting there's a problem in the culture. And if you think I'm sounding like some bigot talking head on FOXNEWS then I guess that's just too bad. Call me homegrown Pegida if you like. I'm not interested in the Islamification of the west or whatever the bigots want to call it. Islam becomes the predominant religion in the world...I don't give a shit in the Prophet's hat. It's all a god delusion anyway.

All I want to see is a hint that reasonable Muslims might begin to rise up and refuse to let themselves or anybody else become subject to the abuses of the huge and growing number of sociopaths in their culture.