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Old 12-28-2014, 07:05 AM
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Believe it or not, today's Post Dispatch newspaper had six pages of articles on the shooting, what's happening now in Ferguson, the lawsuits, the new killings, and an article about a cat that stepped in cow poop.
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Old 12-28-2014, 07:41 AM
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Believe it or not, today's Post Dispatch newspaper had six pages of articles on the shooting, what's happening now in Ferguson, the lawsuits, the new killings, and an article about a cat that stepped in cow poop.
But Zeke and Merrylander say it's done.

For why it isn't done, see the thread about the poll that shows how opinion breaks on racial and political lines. This is a politically-charged argument, fueled by different views of reality, that are at odds with each other and cannot all be right.

Here, I'll show you.

Zeke and Finn, please answer the following question:

1. Do you think blacks and other minorities receive equal treatment as whites in the criminal justice system? Yes ! No

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...b_graphic.html
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Old 12-28-2014, 07:52 AM
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In general, yes.

Hence the lack of indictment.
Bullshit. The lack of indictment was due to McCulloch's subornation of perjury.
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Old 12-28-2014, 07:55 AM
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Zeke and Finn, please answer the following question:

1. Do you think blacks and other minorities receive equal treatment as whites in the criminal justice system? Yes ! No
You really think you're gonna get a straight answer to this question out of either of these two?
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:11 AM
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Again, feel free to look at the bar chart in this link to get a feel for living in Ferguson. Under the police thumb...

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...dded.html?_r=1
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:13 AM
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You really think you're gonna get a straight answer to this question out of either of these two?
It's pretty much rhetorical.

The point is, everyone knows the answer to the question is 'yes' or 'no,' not both, and everyone is stuck on one answer or the other. So the discussion goes on and on.
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:29 AM
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But Zeke and Merrylander say it's done.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...b_graphic.html
Oh no, it is not done by a long shot, but this thread is about as useful as stepping in a cowpattie. The whole affair was a parody of justice but as that article in Time noted it is not really the one to rally around. The New York miscarriage of justice would be a better symbol.

As for the question only someone so wet behind the years that they should not be allowed out unaccompanied could possibly believe our "justice" system is equal and free of bias.
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:37 AM
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1. Do you think blacks and other minorities receive equal treatment as whites in the criminal justice system? Yes ! No
Generally no, but I don't project these feelings upon a specific case, preferring to focus on relevant, verified facts.

Also, I believe that blacks are more likely to be arrested for certain infractions (e.g., pot possession), but that this is partially a result of a greater police presence in the parts of cities with the highest crime rates. Once a suspect is in front of a judge or jury, I believe the criminal justice system fares better and is mostly color-blind.
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:53 AM
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Generally no, but I don't project these feelings upon a specific case, preferring to focus on relevant, verified facts.

Also, I believe that blacks are more likely to be arrested for certain infractions (e.g., pot possession), but that this is partially a result of a greater police presence in the parts of cities with the highest crime rates. Once a suspect is in front of a judge or jury, I believe the criminal justice system fares better and is mostly color-blind.
Like I said...don...good luck with getting a straight answer.

Finn...the dark prince of "...yes, but...". Catch it...right here on Political Chat.

The fucking answer finn is, no they don't receive equal treatment.
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Old 12-28-2014, 09:05 AM
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Like I said...don...good luck with getting a straight answer.

Finn...the dark prince of "...yes, but...". Catch it...right here on Political Chat.

The fucking answer finn is, no they don't receive equal treatment.
I'm far less simple-minded and far more analytical than you, Ike. I make no apologies for that. While you may think all the complex issues of the day are black and white, I find many of them gray.
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