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12-24-2014, 11:50 AM
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There should be a new grand jury, with a special prosecutor.
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Too late. Wilson has already made his money and ran. There never was nor ever will be a commitment to prosecute. I would love to see this go to a civil court just so all of the truth comes out.
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12-24-2014, 12:08 PM
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There should be a new grand jury, with a special prosecutor.
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Of course but, unless I'm mistaken, that would be Jay Nixon's call and, so far, he hasn't been on "the side of the angels".
John
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12-24-2014, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BeamOn
Too late. Wilson has already made his money and ran. There never was nor ever will be a commitment to prosecute. I would love to see this go to a civil court just so all of the truth comes out.
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If a new grand jury was empaneled and if that jury returned and indictment, a warrant for Wilson's arrest would be issued. If he refused to surrender, he's be a fugitive. Now, do I think this will happen? No.
The hope is that the Justice department's ongoing investigation will find cause for indicting Wilson on civil rights violations. It's a faint hope though.
John
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12-24-2014, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
That he was a person of interest (matching description, stolen items in hand, etc.) in a strongarm robbery absolutely implies something: awareness when approaching. Past that, Brown brought everything on himself by causing a sworn law enforcement officer to believe his life was in danger.
Discussing anything else is just so much Titanic deck chair arranging.
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My point was made, though you are not on it....
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12-24-2014, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
That he was a person of interest (matching description, stolen items in hand, etc.) in a strongarm robbery absolutely implies something: awareness when approaching. Past that, Brown brought everything on himself by causing a sworn law enforcement officer to believe his life was in danger.
Discussing anything else is just so much Titanic deck chair arranging.
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Wrong. Since the Supreme Court ruled the MO 1979 statute unconstitutional, and specifically the part about shooting fleeing suspects in the back when not warranted, and Wilson stated he fired shots only while in the Tahoe and at the terminus of Browns flight, the shooting in the back is at least perjury. It also leads to questioning what else Wilson perjured himself on.
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12-24-2014, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Zeke: serious question:
If Brown is a robber, does this mean the police can do absolutely anything to him at any time?
If not, then whether what was done is proper is a matter that can be discussed, and you can stop saying it's all due to 'robber Brown causing this.'
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Does anyone else remember that initially, shortly after the shooting the police chief stated that Wilson did not have any knowledge of the convenience store robbery when he approached Brown? Then, much later, that story was amended to say that he did. I find that suspicious.
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12-24-2014, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Does anyone else remember that initially, shortly after the shooting the police chief stated that Wilson did not have any knowledge of the convenience store robbery when he approached Brown? Then, much later, that story was amended to say that he did. I find that suspicious.
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Yes, I mentioned that a while back. The police chief said it and the officer who responded to the shooting said that Wilson expressed ignorance regarding the theft.
It was also stated that the convenience store owner said that nobody phoned the robbery in. Later it was claimed that a customer at the store reported it via cell phone. Was this good citizen ever produced? Did they testify before the grand jury?
John
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12-24-2014, 05:11 PM
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What happened to that out of town construction worker who said that Brown had his hands up? Did he testify?
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12-24-2014, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sheltiedave
Wrong. Since the Supreme Court ruled the MO 1979 statute unconstitutional, and specifically the part about shooting fleeing suspects in the back when not warranted, and Wilson stated he fired shots only while in the Tahoe and at the terminus of Browns flight, the shooting in the back is at least perjury. It also leads to questioning what else Wilson perjured himself on.
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There was no shooting in the back.
Moot pseudo point to wail otherwise.
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12-24-2014, 07:05 PM
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There definitely was shooting from the back, and the arm shot is indeterminate.
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