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Old 12-18-2014, 10:07 AM
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You're not all wrong, but you're not all right. The conservative tendency to put all the bad stuff off on 'bad ancestors' is bullshit.
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:11 AM
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Sigh...

You really just don't get it, do you?

There is no "evening up the score." There is no "making it better."

The only thing that fixes this is if many minorities -- today -- stop acting entitled due to what happened to their great, great, great grandparents.

You're an asshole but you didn't oppress me even if, conceptually, your ancestors may have. You get the moniker by virtue of what you are, not what those who came before you may have been.

Get a grip.
What about when it's still going on?

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You're not all wrong, but you're not all right. The conservative tendency to put all the bad stuff off on 'bad ancestors' is bullshit.
Well, there's also the "poor me" syndrome wherein those whose lives do not measure up to what they believe themselves entitled to develop an attitude of belligerence instead of actively working to change it through an appropriate means...
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:17 AM
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What about when it's still going on?

John
Those affected should grow up?

It's very similar to the issue I have with many reservation bound American Indians.

They lament their lives there with poverty rampant, crime, drugs, violence, et al, but they won't leave because -- somehow -- they have developed a sort of Stockholm Syndrome from a prior oppressor mandating that anything less is "non-traditional" or "progressive."

Like many in other cultures, they have assimilated the values of a social power which no longer forces them to live, act or believe in this manner without their tacit approval.

And they give it.

That's not -- and this goes for MANY minorities - the fault of the white man, it's internal.

"Still going on?"

That's because it's how the animals want to live. Humans would get a job...
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:19 AM
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Sigh...

You really just don't get it, do you?

There is no "evening up the score." There is no "making it better."

The only thing that fixes this is if many minorities -- today -- stop acting entitled due to what happened to their great, great, great grandparents.

You're an asshole but you didn't oppress me even if, conceptually, your ancestors may have. You get the moniker by virtue of what you are, not what those who came before you may have been.

Get a grip.
You're the one that needs to get a grip Dude.

It looks like you're about to have another meltdown.
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:41 AM
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Well, there's also the "poor me" syndrome wherein those whose lives do not measure up to what they believe themselves entitled to develop an attitude of belligerence instead of actively working to change it through an appropriate means...
You mean like the poor oppressed white guy thing?
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:54 AM
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You mean like the poor oppressed white guy thing?
Rapidly becoming the minority.

They're terrified.
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:58 AM
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Rapidly becoming the minority.

They're terrified.
And well we should be.

We got a whole lotta payback coming.
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:19 AM
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Those affected should grow up?

It's very similar to the issue I have with many reservation bound American Indians.

They lament their lives there with poverty rampant, crime, drugs, violence, et al, but they won't leave because -- somehow -- they have developed a sort of Stockholm Syndrome from a prior oppressor mandating that anything less is "non-traditional" or "progressive."

Like many in other cultures, they have assimilated the values of a social power which no longer forces them to live, act or believe in this manner without their tacit approval.

And they give it.

That's not -- and this goes for MANY minorities - the fault of the white man, it's internal.

"Still going on?"

That's because it's how the animals want to live. Humans would get a job...
Well wahdaya know, Zeke is an "Uncle Tomahawk."
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:05 PM
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That's because it's how the animals want to live. Humans would get a job...
Whoa. Talk about assimilated values. You've assimilated dehumanizing racism.
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