Cuba

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I don't think Ike is quite all there, so he should be treated accordingly.

Mirror, mirror on the wall...

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

What goddamn business is it of yours how I choose to talk to Zero. Butt the fuck out.

You're pretty sensitive to me kicking your ass up one side and down the other on every issue I choose to engage you on, aren't you? You may be among the prickliest SOB's on the planet.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Mirror, mirror on the wall...

Or like we say in the 12-step...you spot it, you got it.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You're pretty sensitive to me kicking your ass up one side and down the other on every issue I choose to engage you on, aren't you? You may be among the prickliest SOB's on the planet.

It's pretty easy to be spiky with you when you're generally unable to open your mouth without a lecture that nobody asked for coming forth.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

It's pretty easy to be spiky with you when you're generally unable to open your mouth without a lecture that nobody asked for coming forth.

It's clear to me that you're the type who slept through many a lecture, fully convinced he knew more than the professor to begin with.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I think the sanctions started in 1961. So, in 50+ years or so Castro is still in power. At some point when whatever you have been doing is not working you have to think that continuing to do it is simple stubbornness.

Sanctions started in 1959 (Ike), got tougher in 1961 (JFK).

Question I have (aka I am wondering) as to why now? Release of Alan Gross? Probably not just that. There is something far reaching here. For all I know, Mr. Obama may be trying to get under Putin 's skin. Also wonder what the GOP reaction will be.

[Rajoo]

All this mud slinging is detracting from an interesting topic.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Sanctions started in 1959 (Ike), got tougher in 1961 (JFK).

Question I have (aka I am wondering) as to why now? Release of Alan Gross? Probably not just that. There is something far reaching here. For all I know, Mr. Obama may be trying to get under Putin 's skin. Also wonder what the GOP reaction will be.

I think he's wanted to do this for a while. Gross provided the impetus for a long-sought deal. Also, Obama is also not facing reelection and needn't worry about Florida votes.

[Oerets]

Six months from now only the faithful watchers of FOX will still be upset. I believe even the old Cuban Americans will see this as a good thing. Free travel and getting family members to the US. So will this be a end to the instant Visa acceptance at the border for Cubans?



Barney

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Sanctions started in 1959 (Ike), got tougher in 1961 (JFK).

Question I have (aka I am wondering) as to why now? Release of Alan Gross? Probably not just that. There is something far reaching here. For all I know, Mr. Obama may be trying to get under Putin 's skin. Also wonder what the GOP reaction will be.

The GOP will piss in their pants.

I had not thought about the Putin angle although I don't know that they care much about Cuba in this era.

No telling what all their motives are.