White Ignorance at the Core of Racial Tensions - Page 4

ZeroJunk · #31 12-08-2014, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I'm sure we're all impressed with the assessment skills of a fucking dittohead. And on top of it, you think Zeke has much use for a right wingnut like you?

You don't have a coherent thought in your head I assume, or you would present it ?

Tom Joad · #32 12-08-2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657

TJ, when you attempt to toss anyone who disagrees with you into the same basket as a group of political extremists, you succeed only in diminishing the confidence of other readers in your ability to evaluate anything objectively, if not impairing your overall credibility.

Regards,

D-Ray

I neither regret, nor apologize for anything.

sheltiedave · #33 12-08-2014, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

Final paragraph:

"The "real problem" with Ferguson, New York, Cleveland or any other city where the police have executed black males is not "an attitude of victimhood." No, the real problem is the group who sit in their ivory tower doling out sage advice to people they clearly don't understand about a situation they have no experience with that does nothing but increase the ever widening gap in race relations. Because pretending to know what it's like to be black in America isn't even remotely close to actually being black in America."

The only "execution" in Ferguson was of a good cop's career.

Actually, Wilson's job performance was judged to be "average, but never went above and beyond" while working for Jennings.

And here is another, from his post commander...All the problems became too much for the city council to bear, and in March 2011 the council voted 6-to-1 to shut down the department and hire St. Louis County to run its police services, putting Lt. Jeff Fuesting in charge as commander.

Fuesting, who overlapped for about four months with Wilson during a transitional period, described him as “an average officer.”

“My impression is he didn’t go above and beyond, and he didn’t get in any trouble,” Fuesting said.

He also worked for four months in the ward that included Southwinds and Canfield, and like all Canfield residents, knew Big Mike. It is always difficult to not recognize someone who stands 6'5" in shoes and weighs almost 300 pounds. Maybe Wilson managed to do so...

icenine · #34 12-08-2014, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

As repugnant as Zeke's views may be to many on this board, they are more consistent with the state of the law in the US than are the views of his critics. In other words, the laws are as responsible for the current situation as police behavior is.

The laws and and police behavior derive from needing to send people into rough neighborhoods to fight crime and keep the peace in places rife with crime, drugs, guns, broken families, limited opportunity, poverty ...

But for the grace of God, none of us are street cops in the mean streets of some American cities. Any of us could have been Darren Wilson had we had the inclination to be a cop around Ferguson.

You make it sound like the Green Zone.

finnbow · #35 12-08-2014, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine

You make it sound like the Green Zone.

The per capita number of Americans killed in the Green Zone was probably less than the worse of America's inner cities. Washington DC's mayhem peaked in the '90's with 479 murders one year in a population of about 600,000. It's about 100/yr now.

Check out these numbers for Detroit in 2013. I doubt the Green Zone had remotely as much violence inside its walls.

Murder and non-negligent manslaughter rate per 100,000 people: 45

Total murders and non-negligent manslaughters: 316

Violent crime rate per 100,000 people: 2,072

Total violent crimes: 14,504

Population: 699,889

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6145404.html