Causes of Crime

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Oerets

I still say there are qualified people in the neighborhoods. Just the ones who served faithfully in the military as an example. ..

This still doesn't address whether they want to become cops. Also, being a veteran doesn't automatically qualify you for being a cop, outside of the ability to shoot a gun (and shooting guns too readily seems to be part of the problem we're addressing). Sending an armed guy with PTSD out into the 'hood doesn't sound like a great idea to me.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Oerets

I still say there are qualified people in the neighborhoods. Just the ones who served faithfully in the military as an example. Went to collage and so on. I know my local PD have ""requirements"" but suspect they get fudged. Just by fact it only seems to matter the last name or who you know to get hired. They make the all paperwork workout.



Barney

I'm sure that's true.

The State Government office where I worked was like that.

They had very exacting qualifications, job descriptions and application requirements, but in the end most hiring and promotions were ultimately determined by the Good Old Boy, or Good Old Girl networks.

There are all kinds of creative ways of making the personnel requirements work for you when you are in the hiring seat.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You're the one who simultaneously wants better background checks and lower standards.

I want more black cops in black neighborhoods.

Whatever it takes.

Just "Git er done" as the redneck boys say.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Precisely.

It generates far more issues than Joad's manufactured one.

I apologize Zeke.

I didn't realize you were still here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULGaOaln6Ao

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

There are all kinds of creative ways of making the personnel requirements work for you when you are in the hiring seat.

Of course there are, but it does nothing if the targeted demographic has no/little interest in becoming cops. I know from personal experience the difficulties associated with trying to recruit/hire African-American, Hispanic or female engineers, for example.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I want more black cops in black neighborhoods.

Whatever it takes.

Just "Git er done" as the redneck boys say.

If course, this wouldn't change anything beyond creating additional resentment.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Of course there are, but it does nothing if the targeted demographic has no/little interest in becoming cops.

And you know that black people are not interested in being cops how?

From your life as a black man?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHB4TzHzi2A

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

And you know that black people are not interested in being cops how?

Originally Posted by finnbow

On a TV panel, the police chiefs in NYC, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, and Montgomery County, MD, (two of whom are black) said that despite their best efforts, finding qualified (and interested) African-American police recruits is exceedingly difficult due to a variety of factors (education, ability to pass background checks/criminal records, animosity in black communities against cops...).

Sorry to confuse you with the facts.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Sorry to confuse you with the facts.

Two black cops!

Well that's sure an overwhelming testimonial of how the overall black population feels!

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Two black cops!

Well that's sure an overwhelming testimonial of how the overall black population feels!

They were 4 police chiefs with the responsibility and an expressed desire to recruit more blacks, dipshit. I've have a sneaking suspicion that they know more about this issue than you do.

You seemed determined to not allow facts to get in the way of a good rant.

FWIW, here's an excerpt from the MoCo Police Chief's CV (one of the two white guys):

Chief Manger is credited with reorganizing and expanding the Police Department’s Community Policing efforts. His commitment to the highest ethical standards for policing and his enactment of new policies to increase departmental accountability earned significant recognition from the community, including the Fairfax County Human Rights Commission Award for outstanding contributions, and the N.A.A.C.P.’s Community Service Leadership Award. In 2012, Chief Manger was inducted into the Montgomery County Human Rights Hall of Fame.

Chief Manger is a graduate of the F.B.I. National Academy, the National Executive Institute, the Police Executive Leadership School at the University of Richmond, and the Senior Executive Institute at the University of Virginia, and he has also completed Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School’s Program for State and Local government.