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12-06-2014, 11:02 AM
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On a TV panel, the police chiefs in NYC, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, and Montgomery County, MD, (two of whom are black) said that despite their best efforts, finding qualified (and interested) African-American police recruits is exceedingly difficult due to a variety of factors (education, ability to pass background checks/criminal records, animosity in black communities against cops...).
We can all wish it were not so, but it seems to be (at least for the moment).
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They never finish the sentence to include "for the salary offered" when claiming the inability to find qualified personal.
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12-06-2014, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
They never finish the sentence to include "for the salary offered" when claiming the inability to find qualified personal.
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Offering a higher salary won't render unqualified people qualified, Barney.
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12-06-2014, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
On a TV panel, the police chiefs in NYC, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, and Montgomery County, MD, (two of whom are black) said that despite their best efforts, finding qualified (and interested) African-American police recruits is exceedingly difficult due to a variety of factors (education, ability to pass background checks/criminal records, animosity in black communities against cops...).
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If that's the case then lower the standards for blacks.
The negative effects of that are far less than the negative effects of having virtually all white Police patrolling black neighborhoods.
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12-06-2014, 11:37 AM
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Offering a higher salary won't render unqualified people qualified, Barney.
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No, but will make ones who are qualified but choose to go away for work come back for a job.
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12-06-2014, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
If that's the case then lower the standards for blacks.
The negative effects of that are far less than the negative effects of having virtually all white Police patrolling black neighborhoods.
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Perhaps, but it's hard to demand better background checks, while at the same time advocating for lower standards.
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12-06-2014, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
If that's the case then lower the standards for blacks.
The negative effects of that are far less than the negative effects of having virtually all white Police patrolling black neighborhoods.
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Lower the standards for minorities?
That is a far worse cluster than departments not matching society. Now you have internal conflict, too...
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12-06-2014, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Lower the standards for minorities?
That is a far worse cluster than departments not matching society. Now you have internal conflict, too...
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Because the white cops won't like it?
Tough shit, they're not getting the job done in the black communities so they'll just have to get over it.
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12-06-2014, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Because the white cops won't like it?
Tough shit, they're not getting the job done in the black communities so they'll just have to get over it.
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No.
Because you'll have woefully underqualified officers. The reason you have standards is to avoid that.
If you lower the standard you lessen the whole.
Bad idea. Horrid idea. Typically Joadian.
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12-06-2014, 12:17 PM
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No.
Because you'll have woefully underqualified officers. The reason you have standards is to avoid that.
If you lower the standard you lessen the whole.
Bad idea. Horrid idea. Typically Joadian.
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Having a 95% white police force in a 75% black community is what is a horrid idea.
White Police officers are not getting the job done in poor black neighborhoods.
When you can't get the job done, out the door you go. That's the way the world works.
Scoring a few points higher on a written exam isn't going to make up for the fact that the community they police does not trust them.
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12-06-2014, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Having a 95% white police force in a 75% black community is what is a horrid idea.
White Police officers are not getting the job done in poor black neighborhoods.
When you can't get the job done, out the door you go. That's the way the world works.
Scoring a few points higher on a written exam isn't going to make up for the fact that the community they police does not trust them.
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And being the same race doesn't imply that the community WILL trust you.
Fucking know nothing...
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