If people rise up in arms . . .

[finnbow]

In terms of adding to the national debt, Shrub added $4.5 trillion. Thus far Obama has added $2.0 trillion, but he's still working on it. In fairness, a good amount of deficit in Obama's first year were the economic band-aids aimed at fixing the damage done by Shrub (and introduced during the latter months of Shrub's administration).

Parsimony is not a trait of the American body politic.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Twodogs

Well D, when you pass completely partisan bill that affects 1/6 of the US economy by using parliamentary maneuvering, you have to expect a certain amount of anger.

You mean completely legal and ethical procedure that has been used by Republicans on multiple occasions?

Originally Posted by Twodogs

I agree that "parts" of the bill are unconstitutional.

A pet peeve of mine is this concept of constitutionality. If a protection is not specifically cited in an Amendment, or has not been judged by the SCOTUS as applied to a specific law, the threshold has not been met. (In fact, it hasn't even been tested.)

Something in this new LAW may be deemed irksome, bothersome, intellectually untoward, etc., but what it is not, is unconstitutional.

Originally Posted by Twodogs

There are a lot of people that think this bill is the beginning of the end for our already wounded economy. While a lot of folks like myself are content with waiting for elections to handle this, some are not.

1. Those people are wrong.
2. In any case, elections ARE the way to go.
3. I wonder WHY the economy is "wounded?" Oh, yeah: "those people."

[piece-itpete]

Here we go:

http://blog.heritage.org/wp-content/...ficit_2010.jpg

[merrylander]

Don't forget that Bush and Co. kept all war spending off budget, so his numbers are cooked.

BTW who was the joker who gave my name to the NRA? I got a membership application in the mail today, sure thing, I am about to join. If I do grab your ice skates 'cause hell will have frozen over.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Don't forget that Bush and Co. kept all war spending off budget, so his numbers are cooked.

Rob, I am aware of this of course but where do these numbers show up? It's real money and allot of it. ??

[Charles]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Don't forget that Bush and Co. kept all war spending off budget, so his numbers are cooked.

BTW who was the joker who gave my name to the NRA? I got a membership application in the mail today, sure thing, I am about to join. If I do grab your ice skates 'cause hell will hav frozen over.

Rest assured, it wasn't I. Don't know you well enough for a prank like that.

Besides, I would have donated ten bucks to the RNC in your name. Those bastards are like the herpes, they never go away.

Chas

[Sandy G]

If the balloon goes up, y'all come here...I gots enuff Loudenboomers & ammo to hold 'em off for awhile...Mbwahahahaha..

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

If the balloon goes up, y'all come here...I gots enuff Loudenboomers & ammo to hold 'em off for awhile...Mbwahahahaha..

Good thing your about a tank of gas away from the family and I. We may just have to take you up on that some day

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

If the balloon goes up, y'all come here...I gots enuff Loudenboomers & ammo to hold 'em off for awhile...Mbwahahahaha..

Aren't you the least bit worried that they will all be subject to seizure once a state of emergency is declared?

Chas

[Sandy G]

Naaaaaw...Funny how they ALL got Rurint 'n' Destroyed back in the summer when my Commodes backed up 'n' flooded EVVERTHAING...Hehehehehehe...