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d-ray657 03-24-2010 08:28 PM

If people rise up in arms . . .
 
or should I say, stoop to armed insurrection against the government (for passing a bill with the intention of providing medical care for more Americans), will the oathkeepers defend our democratic institutions. Oathkeepers have been mentioned on other threads here, but I couldn't find the main one. Here is a link to their site. http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

After reading the high-minded rhetoric propounded on the site, have a look here at some of the comments by people who identify themselves as oathkeepers. Keep in mind that the primary target of their venom is that left wing loonie, Bill O'Reilly.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/03/...-bill-oreilly/

They are saying, with the support of many Republicans, that the passage of the health reform bill was a violation of the Constitution. Of course, they have taken an oath to protect the constitution, at least as they interpret it.

With the bricks being thrown through the windows of elected representatives, and protesters promising an armed response to legislation, it is time to ask the question? If there is actually an armed insurrection against elected representatives, how many service members and police officers will abandon their posts at the behest of this organization? I do believe that they could rationalize siding with a gang of thugs as long as it's the federal government that the thugs are attacking, particularly when the head of the federal government is, you know, one of THEM. :(

I hope that I an just engaging in wild speculation. I really do. :eek:

Regards,

D-Ray

Twodogs 03-25-2010 06:02 AM

Well D, when you pass completely partisan bill that affects 1/6 of the US economy by using parliamentary maneuvering, you have to expect a certain amount of anger. I agree that "parts" of the bill are unconstitutional. There are a lot of people that think this bill is the beginning of the end for our already wounded economy. While a lot of folks like myself are content with waiting for elections to handle this, some are not.:(

noonereal 03-25-2010 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 24355)
Well D, when you pass completely partisan bill that affects 1/6 of the US economy by using parliamentary maneuvering, you have to expect a certain amount of anger. I agree that "parts" of the bill are unconstitutional. There are a lot of people that think this bill is the beginning of the end for our already wounded economy. While a lot of folks like myself are content with waiting for elections to handle this, some are not.:(

I don't know, I think the real problem is that America no longer comes first to the GOP and this is being concealed to their members.

Sandy G 03-25-2010 06:36 AM

I think it goes beyond a Democrat vs. Republican thing...People are sick & tired of the arrogance, high-handedness, & condescending attitudes displayed by BOTH parties...Obama was gonna have the most "Open & Transparent" administration in history ...Pelosi was gonna "Drain the Swamp"...Yeah. Bush might have been bad, but he looks like a piker compared to this bunch, ESPECIALLY when it comes to spending Other People's Money...

noonereal 03-25-2010 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 24362)
I think it goes beyond a Democrat vs. Republican thing...People are sick & tired of the arrogance, high-handedness, & condescending attitudes displayed by BOTH parties...Obama was gonna have the most "Open & Transparent" administration in history ...Pelosi was gonna "Drain the Swamp"...Yeah. Bush might have been bad, but he looks like a piker compared to this bunch, ESPECIALLY when it comes to spending Other People's Money...

I don't know about that Sandy. I disagree with you about Bush being better than this bunch. Also Bush spent less???????? How ya figure?

Charles 03-25-2010 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 24362)
I think it goes beyond a Democrat vs. Republican thing...People are sick & tired of the arrogance, high-handedness, & condescending attitudes displayed by BOTH parties...Obama was gonna have the most "Open & Transparent" administration in history ...Pelosi was gonna "Drain the Swamp"...Yeah. Bush might have been bad, but he looks like a piker compared to this bunch, ESPECIALLY when it comes to spending Other People's Money...

I realize that this defies the conventional wisdom currently displayed here, but there would be no TEA party if the Republicans weren't viewed by them as almost as despicable as the Democrats.

Say what you wish, but "business as usual" ain't their bag.

Chas

noonereal 03-25-2010 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 24366)
I realize that this defies the conventional wisdom currently displayed here, but there would be no TEA party if the Republicans weren't viewed by them as almost as despicable as the Democrats.

Say what you wish, but "business as usual" ain't their bag.

Chas

You may be right but they do vote republican and are sucked up to by the GOP.

merrylander 03-25-2010 07:24 AM

Welcome to the Balkan States of America gentlemen and ladies.

piece-itpete 03-25-2010 08:43 AM

I bet no insurrection, although there may be a lone nut or two. Besides, who said if the government fears the people there is freedom? Jefferson? Washington?

Obama and Co have already vastly outspend the Shub. Look up a deficit chart.

Pete

noonereal 03-25-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 24388)
I bet no insurrection, although there may be a lone nut or two. Besides, who said if the government fears the people there is freedom? Jefferson? Washington?

Obama and Co have already vastly outspend the Shub. Look up a deficit chart.

Pete

let me guess you charge Obie with the money he had to spend to save the economy that Bush destroyed


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