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09-16-2014, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Every right codified in our Constitution as being unalienable?
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Well, per se, that's no rights. The word 'unalienable' isn't in the Constitution. It's in the Declaration of Independence, which I argue has 'constitutional status,' but that's sort of different, so let that go for now....
Happily, the Bill of Rights language generally refers to 'the people' or 'persons,' inclusive words that extends protections even to illegal aliens while they are in US jurisdiction.
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Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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09-16-2014, 12:27 PM
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The police should not be confiscating the money of law abiding citizens.
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09-16-2014, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Well, per se, that's no rights. The word 'unalienable' isn't in the Constitution. It's in the Declaration of Independence, which I argue has 'constitutional status,' but that's sort of different, so let that go for now....
Happily, the Bill of Rights language generally refers to 'the people' or 'persons,' inclusive words that extends protections even to illegal aliens while they are in US jurisdiction.
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Thanks for the clarification DQ.
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09-16-2014, 01:19 PM
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Thanks for the clarification DQ.
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And support of my initial glibness.
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10-11-2014, 08:16 PM
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10-12-2014, 06:21 AM
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Well we were allegedly secure in our own homes until the WOD came up with the No Knock warrant. Then if they don't find drugs you have to pay for repairs to your front door and they wont tell you who accused you of dealig, so there went your right to face your accuser. Land of the brave and home of the free, sure.
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10-12-2014, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Your friendly STATE Government at work
Pete
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Fixed it for you Pete.
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10-12-2014, 10:43 AM
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The powerful sheriffs in certain areas target illegals and blacks who might be
passing through.
It is easy and lucrative shakedown of illegals especially.
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10-12-2014, 05:57 PM
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Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Civil Forfeit…: http://youtu.be/3kEpZWGgJks
John Oliver just did an awesome report on civil forfeiture
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10-12-2014, 06:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeG22
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Civil Forfeit…: http://youtu.be/3kEpZWGgJks
John Oliver just did an awesome report on civil forfeiture
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You watch that show? Yeah, us too.
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