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08-17-2014, 01:17 PM
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What? Finding out that their cause celeb was a thug pissed them off? He smeared himself with this stunt prior to the encounter.
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No, same as some of us feel here. It's not simply a matter of law and order. The teenager (or thug if you will) did not deserve to die for stealing $50 worth of cigars. Heck people probably shoplift merchandise that exceed this amount routinely. I have no personal experience of course.
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08-17-2014, 01:17 PM
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Rising to to the occasion or comes naturally? 
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08-17-2014, 01:18 PM
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Hey you used the word "Thug" you bigot..
How dair you take my High School Grad and tarnish my fallacies of a roll model. 
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08-17-2014, 01:20 PM
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I found it sort of interesting that Gov. Nixon used the term victim more than once this morning when referencing Brown on Meet The Press. If he does have more information on the investigation (being the Governor and all) this would be an interesting choice of words.
I know more dangerous speculation on my part.
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08-17-2014, 01:20 PM
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No, same as some of us feel here. It's not simply a matter of law and order. The teenager (or thug if you will) did not deserve to die for stealing $50 worth of cigars. Heck people probably shoplift merchandise that exceed this amount routinely. I have no personal experience of course. 
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Not for a lousy box of cigars or j-walking of course, but apparently for what transpired with his interaction with the LEO afterward.
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08-17-2014, 01:21 PM
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08-17-2014, 01:24 PM
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Not for a lousy box of cigars or j-walking of course, but apparently for what transpired with his interaction with the LEO afterward.
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Cop had the gun, the perp did not. Should not have risen to this level of confrontation. I am not commenting to the cops actions after the fact, still waiting for the full investigation, hopefully with the Feds in charge.
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08-17-2014, 01:25 PM
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“This independent examination will take place as soon as possible,” Holder said. He said he ordered the additional autopsy “due to the extraordinary circumstances involved in this case and at the request of the Brown family.”
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Sure.
"Extraordinary circumstances" and all. Perceived independence and the like. Lots of oversight hoopla.
But I bet it comes back without significant deviation and merely winds up as validation.
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08-17-2014, 01:25 PM
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No, same as some of us feel here. It's not simply a matter of law and order. The teenager (or thug if you will) did not deserve to die for stealing $50 worth of cigars. Heck people probably shoplift merchandise that exceed this amount routinely. I have no personal experience of course. 
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It's been pointed out before that he did not die because he stole.
He died in a separate incident 10 minutes later.
It is being assumed, and IMO it is a rational assumption, that the robbery played a role in escalating the later encounter.
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08-17-2014, 01:28 PM
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No, same as some of us feel here. It's not simply a matter of law and order. The teenager (or thug if you will) did not deserve to die for stealing $50 worth of cigars. Heck people probably shoplift merchandise that exceed this amount routinely. I have no personal experience of course. 
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Respectfully, I ask -- again -- for a head bang smiley.
He wasn't shot for "stealing cigars." He was shot for assaulting a police officer. Hell, beyond being appropriately used to initiate contact, the cigars are irrelevant.
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