Israel has invaded Gaza...

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Those were Saudi's who did that. What did we do to retaliate? Invade Iraq. Brilliant.

It's pretty clear that you have an obstructed view when it comes to this conflict.

WTF man? I said it's personal for me. WTF else do I have to say to you? You think it's an "obstructed view"? Fine...I don't give a shit in Yasser Arafat's hat for what you think of my view, OK?

So you think I supported the second Iraq war? Really???

And as far as I'm concerned, it makes no difference if it's Saudi's or Palestinians, or Hamas or Al Qaeda perping this terrorism. They all hate Jews, Israel, and anybody who lends any support to Israel. And they're willing to blow the next 25 or 3,000 innocent people to shreds just to let us know it's still how they're feeling. It also includes our friendly allies in Pakistan, sending their kids to the Madrassas to learn how to really develop some first-class hate for this country.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Ever notice how many of the major architects of that war have dual US/Israeli Citizenship?

Now there's some food for thought.

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=103x332019

Nothing new: They had it good in Yeltsin Russia until Putin double crossed them.

9 out of the 11 top Russian oligarchs were Jewish or of Jewish descent, and
had connections to Israel.

After the Putin double cross, their favorite destination: England and Israel.

Check these two slick oligarchs in the Ukraine: Solomoyskyi and Rabinovich.
They found the European Jewish Union. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Jewish_Union

[nailer]

A section of Gaza's border is part of the Israel/Egypt border. At this section of the border are the Palestinians being fenced in by Israel, kept out by Egypt, or both?

At the strategic level the Palestinians are an Arab pawn in the ongoing Arab/Israeli conflict.

The peace between Israel and the Arab states that border her is funded by our empire budget.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

....

"...the hell of Israel is way better than the paradise of Arafat."
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Looks right from what I've seen.

Pete

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Ever notice how many of the major architects of that war have dual US/Israeli Citizenship?

Now there's some food for thought.

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=103x332019

The last post of the linked thread is dead on accurate.

Pete

[nailer]

For the Neocons 9/11 was manna from heaven. It put the nation behind the President and gave them/Bush the cover story to slip OIF past the public. Where was the Democratic leadership?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

But I guess you're convinced that Israeli Jews hate Palestinians.

If I wasn't before, the posts you have made in this thread would have convinced me.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

The last post of the linked thread is dead on accurate.

Pete

Jon Stewart can not mention the word Israel in the US without being hammered.

www.haaretz.com/news/video/1.606618

[piece-itpete]

That's too bad. It seems to go one way or the other depending on where you're at.

Tom, black and Jew? Tough one. I've thought about it. I used to think is was a no brainer, the Jews had it worse. Then I learned as many blacks died in forced crossing of the Atlantic as Jews in the holocaust.

That said I still think the Jews have had it worse. Not that it makes what happened to black folks ok (though I'm sure someone will say it's what I'm doing) but with the Jews, it's a directed thing, an active thing, and there's this underlying almost drive to point to the Jews as responsible for the world's ills, a drive to conspiracy, that certainly doesn't exist towards black folks. Perhaps because they can be insular and tend to be successful? I don't know. My 02.

Pete

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

What Israeli Palestinians fear more than anything is that things will get so bad that their Israeli residency will be jeopardized.

They are Israeli citizens. Why would their residency be jeopardized under any conditions, except in individual cases after due process of law? Or does collective treatment just seem natural, for some reason, when we're talking about them?

It couldn't be because they are a despised, oppressed minority in Israel, could it? Or am I full of it because every Israeli jew is your belioved cousin, and an ANGEL who can do no worng, unless they do, but since it's them it's OK?

'Yes SUR, Massa, I sure do loves it bein' here in Israel!'