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Old 07-06-2014, 01:03 AM
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Justification and rationalization to skirt accountability are tools of the politician.
I call them like I see them and I tell it like it is in plain language.

Those are my tools.
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Old 07-06-2014, 06:08 AM
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What's your definition of compassion?
1 John 4:8 for starters then 1 Corinthians 13:1-13
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:09 AM
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1 John 4:8 for starters then 1 Corinthians 13:1-13
Therefore compassion is love; compassion is charity--charity as the translation of the Greek agape. And agape is a word for the act of 'loving your neighbor as yourself.'

Compassion is the value that as we love what is good, we should and we must make the welfare of others a paramount concern. What others? All of them. How much concern? Consider the impulse of a loving parent who sees their child suffering. While few of us can or will drop everything and rush to the side of a starving child on the other side of the world, compassion will nonetheless make us wish to do so, and be alert to all ways and means.

To go from the sublime to the British, an old comic's characterization had a vicar saying 'We are all here on earth to help others; what on earth the others are here for, I don’t know.'" Replacing the comedy with the obvious, one quickly concludes that the others are here to help others, too.
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:11 AM
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What's your definition of compassion?
The opposite of you Dude.

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Old 07-06-2014, 09:15 AM
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Compassion can also be defined in comparison it's opposite: the value that makes people long for opportunities, and be alert to all ways and means, to kill others.

Hate, in other words.
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:26 AM
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Therefore compassion is love; compassion is charity--charity as the translation of the Greek agape. And agape is a word for the act of 'loving your neighbor as yourself.'

Compassion is the value that as we love what is good, we should and we must make the welfare of others a paramount concern. What others? All of them. How much concern? Consider the impulse of a loving parent who sees their child suffering. While few of us can or will drop everything and rush to the side of a starving child on the other side of the world, compassion will nonetheless make us wish to do so, and be alert to all ways and means.

To go from the sublime to the British, an old comic's characterization had a vicar saying 'We are all here on earth to help others; what on earth the others are here for, I don’t know.'" Replacing the comedy with the obvious, one quickly concludes that the others are here to help others, too.
Not quite DQ Charity or a charitable love is the Latin translation of agape. In fact the Greeks have four words for love. There is phileo or brotherly love, then there is storge or affectionate love as between a parent and child what C.S. Lewis called Need Love because children do need their parents love. Then there is eros or sheer physical love which we tend to regard as bad, erotic, yet between two people deeply in love is not a bad thing. Finally there is agape a self effacing or unconditional love.

In his letter to the Corinthians Paul never wrote of blind love and just as well because if we are to love our neighbors as ourselves does it not follow that we must love ourselves before we can love others. It is quite possible to love someone while ignoring their faults and concentrating on their virtues. As Paul put it "Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth."

Oftentimes people project bad actions onto others because they do not love themselves and assume others will behave as they do, or would
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:41 AM
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I call them like I see them and I tell it like it is in plain language.

Those are my tools.
I disagree. I think you are just one of those folks that likes to hear themselves talk.
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I disagree. I think you are just one of those folks that likes to hear themselves talk.
You have a point. Of course, everyone here likes to hear themselves talk. But indulging in overmuch 'bashing of those one thinks wrong' is empty self-gratification. It otherwise contributes nothing, except often to increase the amount of animosity and hardened attitude in others.
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You have a point. Of course, everyone here likes to hear themselves talk. But indulging in overmuch 'bashing of those one thinks wrong' is empty self-gratification. It otherwise contributes nothing, except often to increase the amount of animosity and hardened attitude in others.
And there you have it.
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Old 07-06-2014, 10:17 AM
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I disagree. I think you are just one of those folks that likes to hear themselves talk.
Of course you do.

You need to believe that in order to maintain your rationalizations.

You're a very needy person MP.

That's why you will never get the best of me.

You need the approval of others.

I don't.
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