Political hypocrisy

[Rajoo]

If all right wingers were like mpholland, there would be no tea party.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

If all right wingers were like mpholland, there would be no tea party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM&feature=kp

[icenine]

I would posit that the independent voter, those that split the ticket, (like I did in 1980 voting for Reagan and Pease, my powerful Democratic Rep from Northern Ohio), and those who "wait to pick the right guy" have diluted the power of the Democratic party,
is probably more responsible for the rise of the Republican dominance in the nation than the fringe Tea Party itself.

In other words the Reagan Democrats' chickens have come home to roost: BIG TIME.

[whell]

Originally Posted by merrylander

...but from your posts it is apparent, to me at least, that you are completely lacking in compassion.

What's your definition of compassion?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by icenine

I would posit that the independent voter, those that split the ticket, (like I did in 1980 voting for Reagan and Pease, my powerful Democratic Rep from Northern Ohio), and those who "wait to pick the right guy" have diluted the power of the Democratic party,
is probably more responsible for the rise of the Republican dominance in the nation than the fringe Tea Party itself.

In other words the Reagan Democrats' chickens have come home to roost: BIG TIME.

I would agree with that.

And today's so called centrists are more dangerous than the tea party as they project a "reasonable" appearance while helping advance the right wing agenda.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by mpholland

You don't think the GOP liked the first ruling or disliked the second? I don't agree. Personally, I didn't like either ruling and will never praise them for either.

How's about you use your descriptors to describe your feelings, eh? Hypocrisy, fucked-up, praise...nice terms, your terms not mine.

I was happy about the ACA decision, and I'm pissed about the Hobby Lobby decision. That makes me a hypocrite? What If I told you how pissed I was with the Kelo v. City of New London decision in 2005 where the liberal wing of the court decided 5-4 that the government had the right to condemn somebody's private real property if it was in the "best interests" of the community.

So tell me...according to you, am I now not a hypocrite? I sure hope so.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Dude, not everyone who points out inconsistencies within the liberal point of view is a right-winger. If you look at the body of work by mpholland, you would see a significant tilt toward - balance.

Regards,

D-Ray

What I see in the OP is the use of a lot of terms to describe a pattern of behavior that has been attributed to every lefty on this forum. What I see is a steaming pile of horseshit. And I don't much give a fart in a wind storm for anybody's "body of work" when a silly-ass comment like this shows up.

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

What passes for left in the US is center right just about anywhere else in the world. So if MP is in the center by US standards he's a right winger.

Justification and rationalization to skirt accountability are tools of the politician.

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

How's about you use your descriptors to describe your feelings, eh? Hypocrisy, fucked-up, praise...nice terms, your terms not mine.

I was happy about the ACA decision, and I'm pissed about the Hobby Lobby decision. That makes me a hypocrite? What If I told you how pissed I was with the Kelo v. City of New London decision in 2005 where the liberal wing of the court decided 5-4 that the government had the right to condemn somebody's private real property if it was in the "best interests" of the community.

So tell me...according to you, am I now not a hypocrite? I sure hope so.

I don't believe in ends justifying the means. The ACA being instituted isn't what I am against. It is the way it was implemented that gets me. The fact that it was deemed constitutional under taxation purposes was just another fleecing. That is where the hypocrisy I am talking about comes from. The court is wonderful when they scam through what one is wanting, but then they are evil when they find in favor of what you don't like.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by mpholland

Justification and rationalization to skirt accountability are tools of the politician.



I don't believe in ends justifying the means. The ACA being instituted isn't what I am against. It is the way it was implemented that gets me. The fact that it was deemed constitutional under taxation purposes was just another fleecing. That is where the hypocrisy I am talking about comes from. The court is wonderful when they scam through what one is wanting, but then they are evil when they find in favor of what you don't like.

So you don't believe in the ends justifying the means? Bully for you. But this isn't what your crabbing was about in your OP. You weren't talking about the implementation of the ACA...so why are you bringing that up now? You were crystal clear. I'm a hypocrite if I applaud the SCOTUS for their ACA decision and then turn around and say the SCOTUS is fucked up for their Hobby Lobby decision. It's crystal clear that your accusation of hypocrisy is based on this being flat-out liberal ideology having nothing to do with the actual facts of the case, the arguments and the structure of the decisions.

And I'm saying your suggestion that I'm a hypocrite is utter bullshit. Because I've been just as furious about decisions that were liberal wing decisions. The court isn't "wonderful" and the court isn't "evil". I like the decisions I like and I hate the decisions I hate. Excuse the shit outta me for having fucking preferences and opinions. The only way this can be hypocritical if it's based in political ideology. That's the only basis for your argument. There are liberal wing decisions that suck, and conservative wing decisions that I like. I don't know about anybody else on this forum but if you're talking to me, your accusation of hypocrisy is a load of crap.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

And I'm saying your suggestion that I'm a hypocrite is utter bullshit. Because I've been just as furious about decisions that were liberal wing decisions. The court isn't "wonderful" and the court isn't "evil". I like the decisions I like and I hate the decisions I hate. Excuse the shit outta me for having fucking preferences and opinions. The only way this can be hypocritical if it's based in political ideology. That's the only basis for your argument. There are liberal wing decisions that suck, and conservative wing decisions that I like. I don't know about anybody else on this forum but if you're talking to me, your accusation of hypocrisy is a load of crap.

Makes sense to me.

Dave