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Old 06-17-2014, 12:06 PM
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2 Thugs Held Teenage Girl at Gunpoint, Mom and Dad Both Grabbed Guns and Took Them Out



http://fox2now.com/2014/06/10/one-pe...-the-hospital/

And if the thugs didn't have easy access to guns in the first place.....
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:08 PM
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As Pete said:

"Individual stories cut both ways.

I'd prefer to see the overall trends."

You can post anecdotes all you like (as did I) but the facts are pretty clear. If you keep a gun in your house, it's not real likely to be used to "protect" anyone, and far more likely to shoot a member of your family. Or be stolen to arm a "bad guy".
Exactly. Or several bad guys. I have a friend, a "responsible gun owner" whose entire collection, including ammunition and the large safe it was stored in, stolen from his home. The whole damn shebang grew legs and disappeared before the cops could respond to his security alarm. Less than fifteen minutes. A hole saw, heavy duty furniture moving equipment and a truck was all it took, according to the investigator. They even left the drill laying on his porch with no fingerprints to trace.

30+ more black market weapons on the street.

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Old 06-17-2014, 12:09 PM
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And if the thugs didn't have easy access to guns in the first place.....
Exactly. Lowest murder rates in Chicago in 50 years. Imagine if gun control were as tight everywhere. It's amazing one city can have any impact at all. But lowest in half a century is pretty impressive. It would have to be many times more effective if everyone were to enact the tough Chicago legislation.
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Exactly. Or several bad guys. I have a friend, a "responsible gun owner" whose entire collection, including ammunition and the large safe it was stored in, stolen from his home. The whole damn shebang grew legs and disappeared before the cops could respond to his security alarm. Less than fifteen minutes. A hole saw, heavy duty furniture moving equipment and a truck was all it took, according to the investigator. They even left the drill laying on his porch with no fingerprints to trace.

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Protecting his family by putting more armed "bad guys" on the streets. Thanks, responsible gun owners of America! We really appreciate it.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:11 PM
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Protecting his family by putting more armed "bad guys" on the streets. Thanks, responsible gun owners of America! We really appreciate it.

30+ more black market weapons on the street.

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Old 06-17-2014, 12:12 PM
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Well, you NEED 30 guns if you're really going to keep the house safe! Or, you know, MAKE YOURSELF A TARGET FOR CRIME!
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:15 PM
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Irony-

You know those stories you see where some ass puts a sign in the yard saying "Rob my neighbor, he doesn't have any guns" (or some such nonsense). Who'd a thunk the real crooks would rather break into your place and get your guns. Want to keep crooks out of the house? Get a dog.

But please! Not a damn Pit Bull! You know, Pit Bulls don't kill people, people kill... oh, no. Actually, it's the Pit Bulls.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:21 PM
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These guys were protecting their family jewels!

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Old 06-17-2014, 12:30 PM
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"Although murders in Chicago spiked to 516 in 2012 – only the second time homicides surpassed 500 since 2003 – they dropped to 415 last year, the lowest murder total for Chicago in nearly 50 years."
The result of increased gun control?

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Old 06-17-2014, 12:35 PM
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It would have to be many times more effective if everyone were to enact the tough Chicago legislation.
...or had laws overturned like the courts have done to Chicago -

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/1...l#.U6B752dOWa0


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...tes-gun-ranges
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