Political Forums  

Go Back   Political Forums > Politics
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1501  
Old 03-13-2014, 02:24 PM
barbara's Avatar
barbara barbara is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,237
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobabode View Post
A self taught economist who's favorite source is ShadowStats and a constitutional scholar who reads NewsMux....<guffah, snicker> Oh, gawd.


You nailed it.
Reply With Quote
  #1502  
Old 03-13-2014, 02:29 PM
4-2-7 4-2-7 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,454
Quote:
Originally Posted by barbara View Post
Then you would know that legislation, especially of this magnitude, continues to be amended while being implemented.
Amendment are for congress to do, not the president.
Reply With Quote
  #1503  
Old 03-13-2014, 02:44 PM
bobabode's Avatar
bobabode bobabode is offline
Admin
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Behind the Orange Curtain in California
Posts: 38,330
Can you show me where Obama has amended it? So far he's delayed some of the deadlines, IIRC.
Reply With Quote
  #1504  
Old 03-13-2014, 06:07 PM
whell whell is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 13,135
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobabode View Post
Can you show me where Obama has amended it? So far he's delayed some of the deadlines, IIRC.
He's got a pen and a phone....

...and control of the agencies who circumvent the legislative process and have made the law whatever they want it to be in the name of political expediency. With HHS, IRS and Treasury issuing rule-making and waivers, the plain language of the law is being ignored. But, since no one in Congress seems to care, and sine Dems stood up and cheered during the State of the Union when Obama stated he planned to circumvent them, I guess no one will challenge this.

Latest example: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/us...-pay.html?_r=0

There is this thing called the Fair Labor Standards Act that determines when and how overtime is paid. But, if a Pres has a pen and a phone, who cares?
Reply With Quote
  #1505  
Old 03-13-2014, 06:13 PM
bobabode's Avatar
bobabode bobabode is offline
Admin
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Behind the Orange Curtain in California
Posts: 38,330
Quote:
Originally Posted by whell View Post
He's got a pen and a phone....

...and control of the agencies who circumvent the legislative process and have made the law whatever they want it to be in the name of political expediency. With HHS, IRS and Treasury issuing rule-making and waivers, the plain language of the law is being ignored. But, since no one in Congress seems to care, and sine Dems stood up and cheered during the State of the Union when Obama stated he planned to circumvent them, I guess no one will challenge this.

Latest example: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/us...-pay.html?_r=0

There is this thing called the Fair Labor Standards Act that determines when and how overtime is paid. But, if a Pres has a pen and a phone, who cares?
I suspect that everyone would've stood and cheered had the Shrub had the balls to make an executive decision...oh, wait.
Even the DemocRats got in that conga line.

What's changed?
Reply With Quote
  #1506  
Old 03-13-2014, 07:01 PM
4-2-7 4-2-7 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,454
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobabode View Post
Can you show me where Obama has amended it? So far he's delayed some of the deadlines, IIRC.
In the actual Law writing where it has the dates the mandate take place it says "Shall Be"

Meaning that's the law congress passed and is to take place on that specific date. You do not change the signed by congress law unless you go to them for a vote to change it.
Reply With Quote
  #1507  
Old 03-13-2014, 07:07 PM
4-2-7 4-2-7 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,454
The Affordable Care Act was passed by Congress and then signed into law by the President on March 23, 2010.
On June 28, 2012 the Supreme Court rendered a final decision to uphold the health care law.
http://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/rights/law/
Reply With Quote
  #1508  
Old 03-13-2014, 07:13 PM
donquixote99's Avatar
donquixote99 donquixote99 is offline
Ready
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 19,930
Quote:
Originally Posted by whell View Post
He's got a pen and a phone....

...and control of the agencies who circumvent the legislative process and have made the law whatever they want it to be in the name of political expediency. With HHS, IRS and Treasury issuing rule-making and waivers, the plain language of the law is being ignored. But, since no one in Congress seems to care, and sine Dems stood up and cheered during the State of the Union when Obama stated he planned to circumvent them, I guess no one will challenge this.

Latest example: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/us...-pay.html?_r=0

There is this thing called the Fair Labor Standards Act that determines when and how overtime is paid. But, if a Pres has a pen and a phone, who cares?
Shrub did make similar changes to the OT rules, except of course it was for less OT for some people. So was he also a tyrant running roughshod over the law? Or, perchance, the law gives the executive such power?
Reply With Quote
  #1509  
Old 03-13-2014, 07:14 PM
Rajoo's Avatar
Rajoo Rajoo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sierras
Posts: 15,280
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobabode View Post
A self taught economist who's favorite source is ShadowStats and a constitutional scholar who reads NewsMux....<guffah, snicker> Oh, gawd.
Reminds me of an NCAA basketball game many years ago where the visiting team was UNLV and I forget the home team, home crowd put up a sign that read "Welcome Scholars".
__________________
The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite. Thomas Jefferson
Reply With Quote
  #1510  
Old 03-13-2014, 07:17 PM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is offline
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 26,554
Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99 View Post
Shrub did make similar changes to the OT rules, except of course it was for less OT for some people. So was he also a tyrant running roughshod over the law? Or, perchance, the law gives the executive such power?
Exactly. Congress wrote the law leaving its implementation, through rulemaking, to the Executive Branch. They could have done otherwise, but didn't.

And how exactly is somebody making $24K annually considered management?
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:38 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.