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03-12-2014, 11:34 AM
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I was referring them to being stooges for the Dems, then tossed when not needed.
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By "stooges" do you mean organized and supported by the Democrats? Any proof of that?
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03-12-2014, 11:40 AM
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No, I mean used for political purposes. The left always trots out the fringes around election and puts them back in the closet once they've won
As does the right.
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03-12-2014, 12:10 PM
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Unlike the Tea Party, OWS was a largely spontaneous and totally grass roots movement. They didn't have the Koch brothers giving them free climate-controlled bus rides to national landmarks, decked out with multiple Jumbotrons blaring speeches from AM radio demagogs. The comparison is absurd.
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03-12-2014, 12:18 PM
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Agreed, the right is much better organized.
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03-12-2014, 12:28 PM
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Agreed, the right is much better organized.
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OWS wasn't organized at all or, for that matter, all that focused.
If you really payed attention to what OWS was pissed off about, you'd see that the one thing they agreed on was that the political system as a whole, regardless of party, was completely under the control of..... you know..... Wall Street.
Nothing about what they were up to served to advance the Democratic Party agenda. Sure, they may have been "left-oriented". The thing is, though, the Democratic Party isn't. They are at best center right. "The Left" in the US is completely without representation in the political arena.
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03-12-2014, 12:29 PM
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OWS wasn't organized at all or, for that matter, all that focused.
If you really payed attention to what OWS was pissed off about, you'd see that the one thing they agreed on was that the political system as a whole, regardless of party, was completely under the control of..... you know..... Wall Street.
Nothing about what they were up to served to advance the Democratic Party agenda. Sure, they may have been "left-oriented". The thing is, though, the Democratic Party isn't. They are at best center right. "The Left" in the US is completely without representation in the political arena.
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Great post!
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03-12-2014, 12:42 PM
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I agree that our left isn't very leftish as the world goes. However regarding the OWS, they certainly played to the Dems in the election. Or would they vote for Romney?
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03-12-2014, 12:51 PM
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I agree that our left isn't very leftish as the world goes. However regarding the OWS, they certainly played to the Dems in the election. Or would they vote for Romney?
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First off, where's the evidence that OWS participated in the election at all, either by voting for or campaigning for a candidate? It wouldn't surprise me to learn that those who did vote voted for third party candidates: Green, Libertarian, etc.
Asking whether an OWS participant would vote for Romney is about as silly a question as you could ask. What reason could any of them have for voting for a corporate raider who sends entire factories overseas and argues that "54%" of us will never "get it"?
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03-12-2014, 01:05 PM
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It was rhetorical.
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03-12-2014, 01:18 PM
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OWS wasn't organized at all or, for that matter, all that focused.
If you really payed attention to what OWS was pissed off about, you'd see that the one thing they agreed on was that the political system as a whole, regardless of party, was completely under the control of..... you know..... Wall Street.
Nothing about what they were up to served to advance the Democratic Party agenda. Sure, they may have been "left-oriented". The thing is, though, the Democratic Party isn't. They are at best center right. "The Left" in the US is completely without representation in the political arena.
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I agree with John. I never saw a direct relationship between OWS and the Democratic Party. Just a grass roots movement opposing WS influence to our political system especially after the taxpayer bailouts, in which both parties were complicit. A spontaneous protest group and not a political organization or is there a OWSPAC that anyone knows of?
BTW, how and when did the Democratic Party came to be called Democrat Party? I hear this usually on right wing radio.
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