Zimmerman trial starts today.

[JBS...]

Originally Posted by icenine

Actually as I said before....getting your head "slammed" into the concrete more than once or twice would be an automatic brain scan (CT) at any emergency room.

The question MSNBC says should be asked...when did Martin take the safety off of his weapon?

Really? LMAO

The Kel tec 9mm has no external safety that must be toggled before firing.

Brilliant

[bobabode]

Are you following the trial, JB or have you made up your mind based on what the 'American Rifleman' tells you to think?

[icenine]

So JBS you are ok with a man carrying a concealed weapon just deciding to stop and profile a child and decide he is a criminal and accost him? With a tec 9 in his pocket?

No profiling,no stalking, no Tec 9, that child is still alive. Zimmerman is a wannabe cop....
plus he has been caught lying to Sean Hannity...he said he did not know about Stand Your Ground.
Guess what he got an A studying it in a Criminal Justice class......according to his professor, who remembers Zimmerman well.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by JBS...

Really? LMAO

The Kel tec 9mm has no external safety that must be toggled before firing.

Brilliant

I think you missed the point.

I believe the statement was a snide comment concerning the innocence of young Trayvon, and in no way was directed at the fire control system of "Zippys" sidearm.

To tell the truth, I'm surprised that "Zippy" hasn't bee accused of 1st degree murder during a failed stickup whenever he attempted to steal the poor young lad's Skittles and soda pop.

IMHO, this was a local issue and should have been handled as such. But it has now been elevated to the national stage in a crass attempt for political and monetary gain, with no concerns as to what the actual fallout of inflaming people's passions may be.

We're not engaging in a discourse, but instead political bullshit...and nothing good can come of it.

And that, my friends, is my honest opinion. And I don't much care whether anyone likes it or not.

I say let the court decide, and get used to it.

Chas

[BlueStreak]

Oh, but it is our business when one considers the potential of our states adopting the same vigilante justice based laws. It was elevated to the national stage because the people have a right to know that there are others who wish to circumvent due process and fire at will, among us. Is it our concern? Damn right it is, Chas. We want to get to know it, so we can stop it from happening here.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

So JBS you are ok with a man carrying a concealed weapon just deciding to stop and profile a child and decide he is a criminal and accost him? With a tec 9 in his pocket?

And, there it is. Self defense? Hardly. Zimmerman picked a target, followed him, chased him down and confronted him with virtually ZERO evidence that the guy had done anything wrong. Then, in the ensuing scuffle....shot him.

No profiling,no stalking, no Tec 9, that child is still alive. Zimmerman is a wannabe cop....
plus he has been caught lying to Sean Hannity...he said he did not know about Stand Your Ground.
Guess what he got an A studying it in a Criminal Justice class......according to his professor, who remembers Zimmerman well.

He is a liar, a vigilante zealot and IMO......a wanton killer.

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Charles

I think you missed the point.

I believe the statement was a snide comment concerning the innocence of young Trayvon, and in no way was directed at the fire control system of "Zippys" sidearm.


Chas

True dat. That was my take on it.

Otherwise I agree with Blue. He was a punk wannabe studying MMA with a piece o' junk Tec 9 cruisin' his little walled off HOA shithole in Florida, thinking it was open season on black folk with no bag limit.

He seems to have had the whole scenario worked out in advance. After he shot the kid, Zippy says Trayvon exclaimed, "You got me"? Really? REALLY?
I think this Zippy had been watching too many grade B movies about the mythical West like High Noon or that Wells Fargo TV series.

Too bad the kid didn't splatter his brains all over the sidewalk but then being Florida we all know the kid would be on death row at Raiford for his trouble.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Oh, but it is our business when one considers the potential of our states adopting the same vigilante justice based laws. It was elevated to the national stage because the people have a right to know that there are others who wish to circumvent due process and fire at will, among us. Is it our concern? Damn right it is, Chas. We want to get to know it, so we can stop it from happening here.

Dave

What you see as vigilante justice I see as the right to defend oneself, even in a public venue if necessary.

Besides, the man is on trial and facing years in prison...I don't see how that is circumventing due process.

Personally, I think that firearms training, with an emphasis on legal usage should be taught in schools. The world in general, and the US in particular are awash in small arms.

Now this doesn't mean that I think it should be mandantory to send Little Bucktooth off to Thunder Ranch for a week to learn to be a proficient gunfighter. Although it wouldn't hurt Little Bucktooth to at least understand which end of your weapon you point down range.

What needs to be taught is if you pull that iron, and shoot somebody, you'll be sorry you did...even if it's a clean shoot.

This ain't Dodge City, you ain't Marshall Dillon, and it's gonna fuck with your mind...unless you're a stone cold killer.

Now I used to be a stone cold killer, killed most everything short of a person. I suppose I could speculate on about the only things that really needs killing are people...but I won't go there.

Probably what sticks in my mind is when I shot a squirrel in the head. I could see the look on it's face through the scope as the Stinger took off half of it's head.

I guess it was quicker than dying of old age, and I ate the miserable bastard...but that was when I finally realized the consequences of my actions.

And I also think that the vast majority of people already realize this...otherwise the streets would be running red with blood.

Chas

[BlueStreak]

Ex post facto----After the fact.

He kills someone based on suspicion, then goes to justify his actions before a court of law.

If it is found he was unjustified...................

How do you bring the innocent dead back to life?

Every time I look into it, Zimmerman seems more like an aggressor chasing down prey in this case. And yet, some still insist on defending him.

Why?

Dave

[Charles]

Originally Posted by bobabode

True dat. That was my take on it.

Otherwise I agree with Blue. He was a punk wannabe studying MMA with a piece o' junk Tec 9 cruisin' his little walled off HOA shithole in Florida, thinking it was open season on black folk with no bag limit.

He seems to have had the whole scenario worked out in advance. After he shot the kid, Zippy says Trayvon exclaimed, "You got me"? Really? REALLY?
I think this Zippy had been watching too many grade B movies about the mythical West like High Noon or that Wells Fargo TV series.

Too bad the kid didn't splatter his brains all over the sidewalk but then being Florida we all know the kid would be on death row at Raiford for his trouble.

I wasn't there, and neither were you.

This whole argument is based on speculation, conjecture, and preconceived prejudices. Fueled by the media circus.

What's say we both step back, admit we don't know shit from beans about what actually happened, and see what the court decides.

I'm outta gas regardless.

Night all,

Chas