Valerie Plame on Edward Snowden

[finnbow]

"I don't think [Snowden's] a hero, I don't condone what he did. At the same time he's certainly not a traitor as he was called by Dick Cheney," Plame told HuffPost Live host Mike Sacks. "In a way, we as U.S. citizens owe Edward Snowden a thank you for having brought this issue to the forefront and so that we can begin to have a serious and genuine conversation about these issues."

Plame also rolled her eyes at Cheney labeling Snowden a traitor, given the Bush administration's involvement in leaking her identity to columnist Robert Novak.

"The irony of people like Dick Cheney or Karl Rove whining and bemoaning the fact of the leak of intelligence -- given my history and certainly Dick Cheney's intimate involvement with the betrayal of my CIA identity -- is really something," she said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3466824.html

I don't take issue with her POV.

[BlueStreak]

I would have agreed with her POV right up to the point Snowden offered to tell foreign governments how we spy on them.....beyond that, I'd have to agree with Cheneys assesment.

However, I hope the shrill response from Cheney, Graham and other GOP'ers get's it through rightwinger skulls that the Republicans are just as complicit as anyone else.

Already, I've seen that a right many of them refuse to see it. (Like they refuse to see so many things.)

Dave

[Dondilion]

He certainly is a traitor. He is giving ammunition and comfort to our enemies and potential enemies.

I firmly believe he is a Red Chinese spy. Probably took money or is being blackmailed.

[Rajoo]

We should have done better than this bum for $122K/year.
A high school drop out with gaping holes in his resume. Four weeks on the job and the guy squeals. Has no credibility nor integrity and he is lecturing like a demagogue?

NSA contractor hired Snowden despite concerns about resume discrepancies

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95K01J20130621

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

We should have done better than this bum for $122K/year.
A high school drop out with gaping holes in his resume. Four weeks on the job and the guy squeals. Has no credibility nor integrity and he is lecturing like a demagogue?

NSA contractor hired Snowden despite concerns about resume discrepancies

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95K01J20130621

I think I'll go apply for a job!

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

"I don't think [Snowden's] a hero, I don't condone what he did. At the same time he's certainly not a traitor as he was called by Dick Cheney," Plame told HuffPost Live host Mike Sacks. "In a way, we as U.S. citizens owe Edward Snowden a thank you for having brought this issue to the forefront and so that we can begin to have a serious and genuine conversation about these issues."

Plame also rolled her eyes at Cheney labeling Snowden a traitor, given the Bush administration's involvement in leaking her identity to columnist Robert Novak.

"The irony of people like Dick Cheney or Karl Rove whining and bemoaning the fact of the leak of intelligence -- given my history and certainly Dick Cheney's intimate involvement with the betrayal of my CIA identity -- is really something," she said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3466824.html

I don't take issue with her POV.

Indeed.

[Oerets]

I for one think it is still to early to have a opinion on his loyalty. I keep thinking why go to china? One could leak the info to the US papers and let the fur fly and stay in country.

But for all I know he could of been a few steps ahead of a special ops team.



Barney

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

He certainly is a traitor. He is giving ammunition and comfort to our enemies and potential enemies.

I firmly believe he is a Red Chinese spy. Probably took money or is being blackmailed.

I agree. I don't buy that he exposed the spy apparatus of the U.S. Government in front of the whole world simply because he felt the American people have a "right to know", unless he's an idiot. I also don't buy the notion that any of this is new, or that it will ever really stop under any regime. In fact, with all of the bluster and bullshit coming from our far right lunatics about gathering "armies" and what-not, I expected our government to have it's ear to the tracks, domestically. What? You think they're going to just sit idly by and let a bunch of yahoos mount an insurrection?

GET REAL!

Dave

[Charles]

Originally Posted by JJIII

I think I'll go apply for a job!

I was reading something to the effect that perhaps 1/2 million people in the USA have top secret, or above clearances.

If that is in any way credible, it's no wonder that we can't keep a secret.

Chas

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Charles

I was reading something to the effect that perhaps 1/2 million people in the USA have top secret, or above clearances.

If that is in any way credible, it's no wonder that we can't keep a secret.

Chas

I have a friend, who told me that when he was in the Army, stationed at a stateside base, (1987-1989) he was part of a unit that routinely traced and monitored phone calls, internal as well as calls coming in and going out of the base. ALL calls. Radio transmissions were also monitored.

He said;

"Interesting, what people talk about when they think no one is listening."

Dave