When will we hear the end of "fiscal cliff?"

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Exactly what is the Republican bid to resolve the pending fiscal issues? I haven't heard any more details from the Congressional Republicans than we heard from Romney about his tax plan. And do the really think that Obama is going to negotiate a deal to extricate us from the aftermath of the last debt-limit fiasco, only to face another one within a couple of months? He has put his solutions to the problem on the table. Last I heard, they did not have a proposal on the table.

Regards,

D-Ray

They don't but you won't hear that on the corporate media, even from the supposedly "liberal" commentators. The entire discussion in the media is on Republican terms. It's all about Obama, whether he's being "arrogant" by starting from the position he ran on during the election, whether he's "serious" about finding a solution because he's on the road "campaigning" instead of sitting down with Boehner and McConnell to negotiate.

John

[d-ray657]

I think Obama's learned from what happened with the dialogue over "Obamacare." The right wing seized the initiative in creating a false narrative about Obama's march into soshulism. This time, he is taking the case to the public about what he wants and why he wants it. The Republicans are setting themselves up to be painted as whiners with no ideas. The more he identifies them as do-nothings, and they act consistent with that description, the more they set themselves up for a "shellacking" in 2014.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Oerets]

Does anyone not believe for a single minute that a deal will be struck. If not before the first of the year soon there after. Right now the GOP is adrift looking for a someone who all or a majority of the Right will follow. While on the other hand the Left looks to be now in a stronger position but that can change O so fast. Are they able to use it to an advantage while able to?

The Democrats not known for being able to stick together in a totally united front unlike the Republicans have in the past. I fear the Democrats will once again for the good of the country give a little more ground then needed to the Republicans to strike a deal in the 24th hour.

To much pressure to settle this and move on for it to last to long. But then again the Tea Party has a strangle hold on the House leadership at least until the new session's election of leadership positions is over.


Barney

[Boreas]

Here's the answer.

http://front.moveon.org/dear-democra...m-robert-reich

John

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Here's the answer.

http://front.moveon.org/dear-democra...m-robert-reich

John

Thanks for that, John. Duly forwarding!

[bobabode]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...y.html?hpid=z1

Boehner offers up Dem Bowles stale pre election framework. What a bunch of crooks and bullshyte artistes these idjits are. I say drive it right off the cliff, full speed ahead. These machinations by the losers of the last election are nothing but cynicism wrapped in turds. Robert Reich has a good grip on this in his 8 point plan. Let the Bush tax cuts die and introduce a mid class tax break in the new congress. Let's see where they really stand. On to 2014!

[Boreas]

The proposal calls for $800 billion in higher tax collections through an overhaul of the tax code next year that would push the top rate below the current level of 35 percent and raise cash by wiping out loopholes and deductions.

The plan also seeks $600 billion in health savings. One option, GOP aides said, would be raising the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67. It also includes $300 billion in savings from other mandatory programs, such as farm subsidies. And it would save $200 billion by applying a less generous measure of inflation government wide, including to Social Security benefits, which would rise more slowly as a result.

This is what they call a "credible plan"?

The GOP plan also seeks another $300 billion in cuts to agency budgets on top of the $1 trillion in cuts already enacted. All told, it would produce $2.2 trillion in new savings, or $4.6 trillion when measured against the same yardstick as the president’s proposal.

Gosh! I wonder which departments those will be!

John

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by bobabode

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...y.html?hpid=z1

Boehner offers up Dem Bowles stale pre election framework. What a bunch of crooks and bullshyte artistes these idjits are. I say drive it right off the cliff, full speed ahead. These machinations by the losers of the last election are nothing but cynicism wrapped in turds. Robert Reich has a good grip on this in his 8 point plan. Let the Bush tax cuts die and introduce a mid class tax break in the new congress. Let's see where they really stand. On to 2014!

The GOP's leaders still haven't got the memo. The majority of the electorate want to raise taxes on incomes over 250K.



Barney

[CarlV]

I sure hope we do the cliff thing before the real Americans give in to those fools. The public voted and the public will blame the GOP anyway and rightfully so. A good thing.



Carl

[mac mini]

Originally Posted by CarlV

I sure hope we do the cliff thing before the real Americans give in to those fools. The public voted and the public will blame the GOP anyway and rightfully so. A good thing.



Carl

Have to agree but the democrats aren't as organized as the republicans and they can be spineless.

I don't belong to organized political party. I'm a democrat.
Will Rogers 1935