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08-09-2012, 02:01 PM
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"I had to put her in a county hospital because she didn't have health care."
So the government operated county hospital failed to give a minimum standard of care? I'm not seeing how her husband's job loss can remotely be connected to her cancer death.
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Maybe she did not have preventative medicine check-ups since she was uninsured and could not pay for them....then it was too late once the cancer was found. That is my take..
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08-09-2012, 03:26 PM
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Maybe she did not have preventative medicine check-ups since she was uninsured and could not pay for them....then it was too late once the cancer was found. That is my take..
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Very few if any plans pay for preventative checkups, they should really be called diseasecare plans. Could also have been like a dear friend, when her cancer was diagnosed the insurance company refused to let her get treament from a special oncology center, by the time they agreed it was too late - murdering bastards.
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08-09-2012, 03:28 PM
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This works the same in places with universal coverage like in Canada, where only very basic stuff is covered, but a lot of the 'extras' like ambulance service, followup drugs, continued care, extended treatment, private hospital room, etc etc are not covered and the patient needs their own private insurance.
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two words BULL SHIT
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08-09-2012, 03:37 PM
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Very few if any plans pay for preventative checkups, they should really be called diseasecare plans. Could also have been like a dear friend, when her cancer was diagnosed the insurance company refused to let her get treament from a special oncology center, by the time they agreed it was too late - murdering bastards.
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Actually, we just met with our insurance agent yesterday. Our plan, because of the health care reform legislation, now provides that one physical examination per year be covered at no cost to the patient. I can also look forward to my fully covered colonoscopy.
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08-09-2012, 03:57 PM
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 Whole new meaning to the phrase, open wide.
How about a radical idea from a rightie - government run health centers, where you get free regular checkups, and get referred to other spe************************ts etc that are covered by yourself or your insurance?
Dark dirty secret though - regular checkups increase the lifetime cost of medical care.
Pete
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08-09-2012, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
Actually, we just met with our insurance agent yesterday. Our plan, because of the health care reform legislation, now provides that one physical examination per year be covered at no cost to the patient. I can also look forward to my fully covered colonoscopy.
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Someone is paying and it ain't the insurance company.
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08-09-2012, 04:44 PM
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On KCBS I heard this pizza place guy whining that he was going to have to raise his pizza prices 8 cents due to ACA. 
If that is all it is, I don't know any real people that would complain at 8 cents for the help's health care plan, certainly not me.
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08-09-2012, 04:51 PM
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Maybe she did not have preventative medicine check-ups since she was uninsured and could not pay for them....then it was too late once the cancer was found. That is my take..
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Soptic was useful two days ago when he seemed to blamed Romney for the death of his wife because he lost his job and health insurance when Bain Capital closed his employer, GST Steel, in 2001. But that moment was fleeting.
It soon was pointed out that Romney left Bain in 1999; at the time of GST’s bankruptcy, the company was run by major Obama fundraiser Jonathan Lavine. It was also discovered that Soptic's wife, who died of cancer in 2006, had health insurance through her employer until she quit her job “in 2002 or 2003.” Yet somehow, Mitt Romney did it.
Unexplained is how Soptic or his wife were unable to find employment with health insurance in the 3-4 years they went without during a time of near full employment in the country. But that’s neither here nor there.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/s...#ixzz235WeIIEp
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I think in Mrs. Soptics case, she was dead regardless of any medical intervention. Placing the blame on Romney is ludicrous and represents just more of Obama's aggressive and immoral smear tactics that define his campaigns back to the Illinois state-house.
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08-09-2012, 09:42 PM
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two words BULL SHIT
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Using big letters isn't going to make you right. I don't know when you lived in Canada, but things may have changed since the 1950's up there.
I've got some current connections up there and live there for a good portion of each year. My spouse is a medical practioner in a Canadian city (not the same one you lived in) and a close friend's wife is a lawyer for the government run health corporation in the same city. Stuff happens pretty much daily in the Canadian medical system that would end up the substance of malpractice lawsuits stateside... and people die that probably shouldn't all of the time.
All I know is that if I get seriously ill while in Canada (and I feel at the time that I'd like to live a little longer) then I'm probably going to insist on being flown down to the US (like pretty much anyone up there who can afford to do so does). I've just been lucky with my health so far and am grateful for it.
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08-10-2012, 02:34 AM
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I can also look forward to my fully covered colonoscopy.  Regards,D-Ray
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The prep is way worse than the colonscopy itself....provided they are putting you to sleep lol
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