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Old 11-21-2009, 11:53 AM
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Looks to me that the powers that be don't want a 3rd party.

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Never did, never will. The Bullmoose Party & Teddy Roosevelt probably cost Taft the 1912 election and gave it to Wilson. Perot hurt Bush Senior the 1992 election and Nader (plus a little old fashioned theft) cost Gore in 2000.

Neither of the big parties likes these third party efforts. It throws a monkey wrench into the "machinery".

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Old 11-21-2009, 11:56 AM
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Well, carpetbagging seems to be a popular sport up North.

Wouldn't want to mention any names, like "Hillary".

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Or James Buckley or Alan Keyes.

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Old 11-21-2009, 12:22 PM
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It's like Wrasslin': theater and blood but you wouldn't want a wrassler in high political office!. Oh, wait!

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It is like All Star Wrasslin'. Least that's what we had on the local teevee when I was a kid.

While they were in the ring, you would have thought that they wanted to kill each other. The bad guys would cheat, bash the good guy in the head with a folding chair, or pull out a set of brass knuckles, all while the official was "looking" the other way.

But it didn't fool the crowd!!!! They'd be screaming at the official, trying to point out what had happened behind his back. The best part was when some enraged hayseed would try to get into the ring and set things right!!!!

And after the match, the wrassler's all went into the dressing room, poured a drink, and split up the money.

Perhaps JV found his true calling whenever he went into politics.

Then again, it appears he didn't have the stomach for it.

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Old 11-21-2009, 12:23 PM
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Never did, never will. The Bullmoose Party & Teddy Roosevelt probably cost Taft the 1912 election and gave it to Wilson. Perot hurt Bush Senior the 1992 election and Nader (plus a little old fashioned theft) cost Gore in 2000.

Neither of the big parties likes these third party efforts. It throws a monkey wrench into the "machinery".

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That's a fact.

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Old 11-21-2009, 01:59 PM
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I don't see the movement that SP is aligned with as a populist movement but as a collection of demagogues. The tea parties and the birthers are trying to stir up prejudice and anger, not trying to promote any alternative plan for governing America. I think Ron Paul makes a much better populist than Sarah Palin.

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Old 11-21-2009, 02:20 PM
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I don't the movement that SP is aligned with as a populist movement but as a collection of demagogues. The tea parties and the birthers are trying to stir up prejudice and anger, not trying to promote any alternative plan for governing America. I think Ron Paul makes a much better populist than Sarah Palin.

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Those behind these "movements" are certainly demagogues. The "Two Minute Hate" on steroids.

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Old 11-21-2009, 02:28 PM
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You are correct, she is a force to be reckoned with...at least at this time.

Personally, I'd like to see a populist 3rd party. If she can help bring this about, then more power to her.

The fact that the Democrats despise her and the main stream Republicans don't much like her tells me something.

They're afraid that she might turn over their collective applecart. Left up to me, I'd run smooth over their asses with it.

But I always was a loose cannon.

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I'd love to see this happen. IMHO, both the republican and democrat parties are beyond repair.
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Old 11-21-2009, 02:35 PM
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I'd love to see this happen. IMHO, both the republican and democrat parties are beyond repair.
There is no "Democrat" Party.

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. I think she's crazy like a Fox.
OMG

Twodog, OK if you believe the earth is flat and that Africa is a country as she does that's one thing but to not see her for what she is is frightening.

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Old 11-21-2009, 02:50 PM
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If you guys can't see it, you better look closer. This women is building a machine. .
Maybe a snow machine.
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