GOP reaction to Obama's immigration policy

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

Wait a minute, how old are these "children" ?

It's not as much how old they are now, but how old they were when they were brought here.

Regards,

D-Ray

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Au contraire, mon ami.

http://americasvoiceonline.org/resea...ue_to_skyrock/

Save your breath Finn, DJ's favorite hobby is dressing up in camo and chasing illegals all over the landscape at night. Minute man is what all the girls say...

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Talk about an uphill row to hoe. Whew! Congress has simply stymied every chance of Obama's policy changes getting cleared, funded or what have you thru their partisan little fingers. Over and over the howls of false equivalence are bandied about as proof that the Prez is a duplicitous, scheming son of a bitch. It's not only outrageous to lay the blame at Obama's door it really leaves me despairing of seeing anything meaningful to discuss here.
For sure campaign promises are to be looked at with a jaundiced eye. Compromise always results in less than what you wanted or expected but to equate Obama's record with any other President ignores the faithless and destructive efforts being used by the GOP. There has never been a congress who has stooped so low, never in our history.
Filibuster, filibuster , filibuster is their mantra. Except when they hold the budget hostage and threaten to shut down the government. Look where that got us. A downgrade in our reputation in the bond market? Does anyone remember that one? Man, I'm so tired of trying to defend the Prez against these wacked out accusations. Look to congress for your bogeymen 'cause that's where they reside , not at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

A cloture and a filibuster are distinct but yet I've notice clotures being used as a measure of filibusters.

In the 2007–08 session of Congress, there were 112 cloture votes[23] and some have used this number to argue an increase in the number of filibusters occurring in recent times. However, the Senate leadership has increasingly utilized cloture as a routine tool to manage the flow of business, even in the absence of any apparent filibuster. For these reasons, the presence or absence of cloture attempts cannot be taken as a reliable guide to the presence or absence of a filibuster.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibus..._States_Senate

Here's a couple of graphs of the fillibuster over recent Congresses. Aside from the record 110th, I don't see much difference between the parties.




http://heathenrepublican.blogspot.co...libusters.html

The numbers from an alternate source:

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

Ok so where is this headed? Ketchup prices gonna be cheaper now or do
we borrow more money from china to feed the little runts.

We send them to school and teach them how to feed themselves, and generate more revenue for the Capitalist system. Kinda like we did with the Irish, Italians, Germans, Czechs, Poles, Slavs...................

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Given his tin ear, I think Romney may be willing/able to ignore the right wing of his party. I'm not yet sure if I want to bet on it, however. He hasn't yet had his Sistah Souljah moment after all.

Well, we've already seen that they are more than willing to overlook his constant lying, hypocritical BS and support him despite their very visible distaste for the flip-flopping douchebag.....

What makes you think it would be any different during a Romney Presidency?

Dave

[piece-itpete]

Booohoohoo, the mean GOP won't play by Obama's rules. He's done precious little. He promised the moon, remember - so when the chickens come home (came home? ) to roost it's his own fault.

Bush got the Dems to do what he wanted. Why? Because the people believed it was right, not because the Congressional Dems were idiots. So if Obama can't get them to do it, it stands to reason that....

When Bush/McCain put forth a pragmatic immigration reform proposal it was demagogued to death by BOTH sides.

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Ooooooooo.....

Is that a sensitive nerve I touched?

Dave

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Dubya tried and got his ass handed to him by the Talk Radio/Faux News wing of the party. With that as a backdrop, Romney doubled down on anti-immigrant rhetoric in the primaries (i.e., self-deporting, vetoing the Dream Act). The GOP has made their bed in this area. Now they're sleeping in it.

I knew if I read further into the thread that I would not need to double post.

+1

[merrylander]

So we educated them, some even managed to put themselves through university, some would send all that talent back to a country these young people barely remember if at all. That does not strike me as being very smart.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Booohoohoo, the mean GOP won't play by Obama's rules. He's done precious little. He promised the moon, remember - so when the chickens come home (came home? ) to roost it's his own fault.

Bush got the Dems to do what he wanted. Why? Because the people believed it was right, not because the Congressional Dems were idiots. So if Obama can't get them to do it, it stands to reason that....


Pete

Boohoo ? The Gopers play by rules? Precious little has been accomplished due to the Senate blocking any and everything that the Dems float. If the Prez expresses support, it's stillborn. Wasn't it Newt that promised the moon?

I would say that outright lying got the Dems to back some of Shrubs BS, so there!