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Old 06-19-2012, 06:25 PM
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Ok so where is this headed? Ketchup prices gonna be cheaper now or do
we borrow more money from china to feed the little runts.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:34 PM
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Dubya was supposed to be humble in foreign policy and compassionate in domestic affairs. Similarly, Obama was supposed to close Gitmo, prosecute terrorist in Federal courts, etc. How'd that work out?
An important difference here is that Obama tried to keep those promises and Bush never even gave them a thought.

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Old 06-19-2012, 07:10 PM
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An important difference here is that Obama tried to keep those promises and Bush never even gave them a thought.

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Quite true, but they both illustrate that campaign promises do not portend results.
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:51 PM
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An important difference here is that Obama tried to keep those promises and Bush never even gave them a thought.

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Talk about an uphill row to hoe. Whew! Congress has simply stymied every chance of Obama's policy changes getting cleared, funded or what have you thru their partisan little fingers. Over and over the howls of false equivalence are bandied about as proof that the Prez is a duplicitous, scheming son of a bitch. It's not only outrageous to lay the blame at Obama's door it really leaves me despairing of seeing anything meaningful to discuss here.
For sure campaign promises are to be looked at with a jaundiced eye. Compromise always results in less than what you wanted or expected but to equate Obama's record with any other President ignores the faithless and destructive efforts being used by the GOP. There has never been a congress who has stooped so low, never in our history.
Filibuster, filibuster , filibuster is their mantra. Except when they hold the budget hostage and threaten to shut down the government. Look where that got us. A downgrade in our reputation in the bond market? Does anyone remember that one? Man, I'm so tired of trying to defend the Prez against these wacked out accusations. Look to congress for your bogeymen 'cause that's where they reside , not at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:02 PM
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Talk about an uphill row to hoe. Whew! Congress has simply stymied every chance of Obama's policy changes getting cleared, funded or what have you thru their partisan little fingers. Over and over the howls of false equivalence are bandied about as proof that the Prez is a duplicitous, scheming son of a bitch. It's not only outrageous to lay the blame at Obama's door it really leaves me despairing of seeing anything meaningful to discuss here....
While I understand your frustration/anger, the GOP is doing it because they can. And why can they? Because the Dem's are so friggin' incompetent when it comes to messaging to the masses. They have ceded the messaging war almost completely to the GOP.

If the House GOP members didn't have support in their home districts (derived in part from their successful messaging), they would be incapable of these antics.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:37 PM
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Wait a minute, how old are these "children" ?
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If the Left would have agreed to fix the border, this would have been passed by every righty.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:47 PM
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If the Left would have agreed to fix the border, this would have been passed by every righty.
It's more fixed now than it has ever been. This "fix the border first" canard from the GOP is just to obfuscate the fact that they want to guarantee employers a source of cheap labor. Sad, but true.
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It's more fixed now than it has ever been. This "fix the border first" canard from the GOP is just to obfuscate the fact that they want to guarantee employers a source of cheap labor. Sad, but true.
I spend A LOT of time & money down there.
No it isn't! With all do respect, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:33 PM
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I spend A LOT of time & money down there.
No it isn't! With all do respect, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Au contraire, mon ami.

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