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05-31-2012, 01:17 PM
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Chamberpot lol.
How about the bar? D's conspiring to take over the world
Pete
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05-31-2012, 01:20 PM
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Chamberpot lol.
How about the bar? D's conspiring to take over the world
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If you have been dealing with the pro se (self-represented) plaintiff I have had to endure for the past few months, you would see why licensing of lawyers (and other professionals) is a good thing.
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D-Ray
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05-31-2012, 01:25 PM
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That's got to be torture. 'Your honor. I move we beat the plaintiff.'
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05-31-2012, 01:32 PM
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That's got to be torture. 'Your honor. I move we beat the plaintiff.'
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Yeah, the union's conspiring with the employer by not arbitrating his case after he was fired for calling the plant manager a f-ing a-hole.
As an aside, my fantasy, when and if I ever retire, is to ask a judge "You were serious about dat?"
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D-Ray
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05-31-2012, 06:50 PM
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Yeah, the union's conspiring with the employer by not arbitrating his case after he was fired for calling the plant manager a f-ing a-hole.
As an aside, my fantasy, when and if I ever retire, is to ask a judge "You was serious about dat?"
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Fixed it for ya!
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05-31-2012, 06:54 PM
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Union conspiring with the employer? Say it ain't so! I'm crushed!
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05-31-2012, 07:13 PM
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Union conspiring with the employer? Say it ain't so! I'm crushed!
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It ain't so. People bitch about unions because they supposedly keep employers from firing jackoffs. But here, the union exercised its judgment that it wasn't going to waste union dues on a loser arbitration, and suddenly it's accused of being in a conspiracy with the company.
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D-Ray
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05-31-2012, 07:24 PM
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Yes. Given enough corporations and businesses and unions and other organizations. Corporations compete with one another and, as such, counter the power of one another. Big government is dangerous precisely because it holds a monopoly position. The interests of corporations are not monolithic. The history of the federal government from the nascent progressive movement in the late nineteenth century through today is an excercise of power consolidation by the resolute usurpation of state and local authority.
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See bolded-I think that you are ignoring the aspect of a government by the people and for the people. Not to mention we do have the power to vote the muthas out if we don't like the way they govern.
Therein lies the fallacious argument that federal government is out to get your rights and freedoms. Try using the ballot box as opposed to voicing disengenous positional talking points. The downfall of specious arguments is that most people after a certain amount of reflection realize just how much bullshit is being shoveled their way and the audience votes with their remotes.
By the way, who actually wrote that last sentence BH?
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06-01-2012, 05:14 AM
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See bolded-I think that you are ignoring the aspect of a government by the people and for the people. Not to mention we do have the power to vote the muthas out if we don't like the way they govern.
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Do you think that people vote for what's good for the country or what is good for themselves? When a large percentage of people become dependent upon something they're likely to support it. BTW, that works for both handouts to business and the poor.
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Therein lies the fallacious argument that federal government is out to get your rights and freedoms. Try using the ballot box as opposed to voicing disengenous positional talking points. The downfall of specious arguments is that most people after a certain amount of reflection realize just how much bullshit is being shoveled their way and the audience votes with their remotes.
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Why do leftists maintain that those on the right get their positions from TV or radio, whereas, theirs are from some mythic intellectual spigot of righteousness?
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I did and it is factually correct that government power has moved from municipalities and states to Washington. If it hadn't, then why are those on the left bragging about their successes over the period. I suspect you think that centralization was a good thing, but the real question is at what point does it become a danger to the natural precepts of individuality and free will.
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06-01-2012, 06:49 AM
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BH whatis factually correct is that power is now in the hands of the corporations and the FEC is complicit in hiding where all the political $$$ are coming from.
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