Todays job application...

[BlueStreak]

Many employers want people they can control, it's as simple as that.

I have a friend who is now a plant manager, recently told me that if you look at an application and see that an employee has been employed in a union environment, "...that's two strikes against them from the get-go.". I asked him if he would hire himself then, as he spent 12 years in maintenance at the paper mill.

Of course I never got an answer.

Anyhow, I probably wouldn't want to work in the gun place, unless I had little choice. If they felt compelled to ask, something tells me they might not be very tolerant in any other way, either. Mentioning ANY "liberal" thoughts at all would probably be a bulls eye on your back. You would have to make sure you are highly indispensable to them before you let them know you don't necessarily share their ideology.

I look for more of this kind of shit to become common practice in the future.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by icenine

From what I know they were let go because they missed too much work because of the treatment and reconstructive surgery required. I do not think they were full or part time so perhaps disability/worker's comp did not come into play. They applied again recently and I was told by another co-worker that they were not taken back because of the personality test. The supervisors in our department wanted them back but it seems corporate did not. I was told they can retake the test in 4 months.

I see this kind of thing happen where I work..... They want to get rid of someone for some reason that won't make it through HR so they come up with another reason they can use to get rid of someone.

Interestingly enough, I am slightly involved in something similar where I work. (Gov agency)
Myself and another lady (I am white she is black) both went through very similar breast cancer experiences last year. We both had the same treatment from the same doctors. We both had to take time off.
I was told..... Take as much time as you need, is there any accommodations we can make for you, what can we do to help.

She was told, you can't take more time off, you have to have your doctor write that you have no work restrictions and he has to release you earlier than what he is saying, you will lose your job if you can't keep your work load up.

She is no longer at work and I'm not clear what her status is. I was called in by an investigator for an interview.

I don't know if skin color was the issue, but it sure seemed like it. She has begun litigation.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

I think employers go way overboard on intrusive questions. I believe credit checks for prospective employees should be against the law. Recently a former co-worker recovering from a medical issue was not re-hired because they failed a "personality test".
Can you believe that ? This was at my part-time civilian hospital. The medical issue was cancer.

No wonder employment is stagnant.

They do, it's ridiculous. I sat in a "panel" interview once, wherein this one woman kept asking me "Why are you seeking employment here at ____?" She asked me this four times and I answered four times. She started to ask a fifth time when one of the other panel members told her; "How many times does he have to answer that? The man's here because he needs a job, Sharon."

Originally Posted by barbara

That sounds like a lawsuit to me.

Originally Posted by icenine

From what I know they were let go because they missed too much work because of the treatment and reconstructive surgery required. I do not think they were full or part time so perhaps disability/worker's comp did not come into play. They applied again recently and I was told by another co-worker that they were not taken back because of the personality test. The supervisors in our department wanted them back but it seems corporate did not. I was told they can retake the test in 4 months.

Regardless of what the company says, because employers lie all of the time, they were denied re-employment because of insurance risks. Another good reason for single payer healthcare.........cut the employer out of the picture. Employer sponsored healthcare needs to go straight into the trash, in it's entirety. Your healthcare issues should have nothing to do with your job unless they render you incapable of performing your job.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Since people will lie to get jobs, the company might find it hard to ascertain if it employed a lot of pretenders.

Which among those questions do you believe goes to the quality of a potential hire?

Can a teetotaler be a good bartender?

[icenine]

Originally Posted by barbara

I see this kind of thing happen where I work..... They want to get rid of someone for some reason that won't make it through HR so they come up with another reason they can use to get rid of someone.

Interestingly enough, I am slightly involved in something similar where I work. (Gov agency)
Myself and another lady (I am white she is black) both went through very similar breast cancer experiences last year. We both had the same treatment from the same doctors. We both had to take time off.
I was told..... Take as much time as you need, is there any accommodations we can make for you, what can we do to help.

She was told, you can't take more time off, you have to have your doctor write that you have no work restrictions and he has to release you earlier than what he is saying, you will lose your job if you can't keep your work load up.

She is no longer at work and I'm not clear what her status is. I was called in by an investigator for an interview.

I don't know if skin color was the issue, but it sure seemed like it. She has begun litigation.

Is she a contractor or an actual government employee?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Which among those questions do you believe goes to the quality of a potential hire?

Can a teetotaler be a good bartender?

Might be a great bartender. Think about it.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Since people will lie to get jobs, the company might find it hard to ascertain if it employed a lot of pretenders.

If it comes down to lying or having your family go hungry, who can blame them?

Shit, I'd lie like a rug.

[Pio1980]

So, we suspect profiling to a political litmus test.

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[Tom Joad]

Just for the Hell of it I am going to go ahead and answer these question as honestly as I can.


Do you know what we manufacture at Nosler?


I know you make bullets because I do a little reloading myself. However I've never bought Nosler's because they are pricey and I'm a cheap SOB. I generally buy Berry's or Remingtons, or Winchesters. I don't know what else you make but if you have a brochure on it I'll read it.

The 2nd Amendment protects the right of the American people to keep and bear arms. What is your view on this?


I support the second amendment. I think the wording is pretty obtuse but I take it to mean that private citizens have a right to own and posses firearms.

Are you a member of the National Rifle Association? Yes No


No. Too right wing for me.

What is your view on Handguns & Assault Rifle platform firearms?

I like revolvers myself, but pistols are OK too. Assault rifles should be limited to the Military only. No civilian needs a goddamned assault rifle. I don't know what the fuck you mean by "platform". What the fuck is an Assault Rifle Platform Firearm?

Do you participate in the shooting sports or shooting sports activities?


I like to shoot at a range or out in the boondocks on occasion. I don't hunt. I don't want to shoot animals. The only thing I could kill with a gun would be a human being. Well, no, I take that back. I don't like Crocodiles. I could shoot a Crocodile. No, make that Crocodiles and rats. I don't like rats either.

What is your stance on legalized marijuana?

I don't give a shit one way or the other.

Have you ever participated in team sports?

I played some little league baseball. I sucked at it, but my old man was the coach so he kept me on the team. But I didn't get to play much because I sucked.

I went out for Football one year in High School but I sucked at it, so I quit.

Played a little intramural basketball in college and sucked at that too but not as much as I sucked at Football so I finished one season.

I played a season of City League softball too. Mostly on the bench because I sucked.

[donquixote99]

We had an employeer here in 2012 that tried to fire an employee because they admitted to voting for Obama. Court took a dim view, there are laws about threatening or intimidating people to compel their votes. Employeer decided to settle out of court.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...ing-for/ncQHN/