The logic doesnt add up....

[Writewing]

In a ABC interview yesterday President Obama explained the Brown Senate win was attributed to "Anger that goes back 8 years" so in essence the voters were so mad at George Bush that they elected Brown to office (as if it must have been an accident) a unapologetic Conservative who's views include strong Military, across the board tax cuts, who stated WaterBoarding is not torture, enemy combatives deserve no Constitutional protections, he is a Climate change skeptic and he has a firm stance against Cap and Trade and above all against Healthcare reform. .
If this sounds strangely familiar to what a hard line Rebublican would run on you would be correct. Yet for all those views that are so in tune with a former President who's party was so bad for our country that to this day still leaves a visceral anger in the population as a whole (let alone a area that is perhaps arguably one of the most Democratic in the nation) the voters decided to put this party and its candidate back in office one short year later.
I know everyone spins but this is hard to wrap your head around, afterall this anger is the soul reason he is our President to begin with, was the country so blinded by anger they voted for the wrong guy then aswell?
OK that was going a bit far perhaps but again, how can he say the public is so angry with Bush and Republicans that they sent a message about it by voting in a Republican?...., and lets not forget this wasnt a race of an incombent so its harder in this particular case to argue that point.
I think its becoming very apparent that this is a clear message that it is Obama's policy and agenda that isnt exceptable and while he is ofcourse personally popular his ideas and style are clearly not.

[Sandy G]

Repeat after me: "It's ALL Bush's Fault..." Repeat until Jan 2013. (Or, God help us, until Jan 2017...)

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

Repeat after me: "It's ALL Bush's Fault..." Repeat until from now on. (Or, God help us, until Jan 2017...)

I fixed that for you

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

I fixed that for you

to be fair, the guy did more harm than any president in my lifetime

at least Carter was ineffective

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by noonereal

to be fair, the guy did more harm than any president in my lifetime

at least Carter was ineffective

And in mine to. But I don't agree with all who crow that he created every problem that happened during his admin and all points beyond. At the very least he will be the scapegoat of this country for the next couple of decades.

[merrylander]

Well one columnist in the WashPost got it right about Brown's campaign. As I noted in an earlier post, he was against having the tax payers of Mass paying for healthcare for the southern states as that is where the majority of the un-insured reside. I suppose he has a point as it would tend to be the north and eastern states that would be picking up the tab for the southern states. His argument is that since Mass has covered all but 3% of their people then other states should look after their own.

This is where all this malarkey about states rights falls apart, our inability to do things as a nation. The fancy paper in my files says that I am a citizen of the United States of America (this is questionable since they are not united, never were). It does not state that I am a citizen of the State of Maryland.

All of this only srves to illustrate that the only fair way of providing healthcare on an equitable basis is Single Payer and it will happen eventually - after we have tried every conceivable alternative first.

[piece-itpete]

It's those darn folks clinging to their guns & God out of fear....

Pete

[finnbow]

I thing you misinterpreted his comment in your zeal to condemn what it was that he said. He said that the same thing that got Brown elected got him elected last year. Namely, popular discontent with the status quo. I listened to the interview and I think it was quite thoughtful and close to being spot-on.

Originally Posted by Writewing

In a ABC interview yesterday President Obama explained the Brown Senate win was attributed to "Anger that goes back 8 years" so in essence the voters were so mad at George Bush that they elected Brown to office (as if it must have been an accident) a unapologetic Conservative who's views include strong Military, across the board tax cuts, who stated WaterBoarding is not torture, enemy combatives deserve no Constitutional protections, he is a Climate change skeptic and he has a firm stance against Cap and Trade and above all against Healthcare reform. .
If this sounds strangely familiar to what a hard line Rebublican would run on you would be correct. Yet for all those views that are so in tune with a former President who's party was so bad for our country that to this day still leaves a visceral anger in the population as a whole (let alone a area that is perhaps arguably one of the most Democratic in the nation) the voters decided to put this party and its candidate back in office one short year later.
I know everyone spins but this is hard to wrap your head around, afterall this anger is the soul reason he is our President to begin with, was the country so blinded by anger they voted for the wrong guy then aswell?
OK that was going a bit far perhaps but again, how can he say the public is so angry with Bush and Republicans that they sent a message about it by voting in a Republican?...., and lets not forget this wasnt a race of an incombent so its harder in this particular case to argue that point.
I think its becoming very apparent that this is a clear message that it is Obama's policy and agenda that isnt exceptable and while he is ofcourse personally popular his ideas and style are clearly not.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

And in mine to. But I don't agree with all who crow that he created every problem that happened during his admin and all points beyond. At the very least he will be the scapegoat of this country for the next couple of decades.

Generally speaking I agree with this.

[Fast_Eddie]

He's saying what he has to say. Of course it's not accurate. He's driving an agenda like every politician. Hey, that's their job.

I think what he's saying, and he's right, is that people were mad so they elected him. People are still mad and they elected Brown. The circumstances that lead to Obama being elected are the same circumstances that lead to Brown being elected. I think it's a effort to say "I haven't done enough" witout actually coming out and saying that. Because you can't show any weakness or the other side will rip you to shreads. So he's trying to just play it off- complicated issues, going to take time, but people like me and Brown are coming in to take care of things. Kind of cast himself as part of the "new wave".