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03-29-2014, 04:20 PM
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Another reason the right hates Obama
The difficulty some people have accepting a Black President has been discussed here ad nauseam. I'm not sure how much of the discussion has been based on the misperception that many folks on both the right and the left had about the actual ideology of Obama.
There was an attractiveness to Obama's rhetoric that led many on the left to believe that he was going to be a transformational leader of a new progressive agenda. I will even acknowledge that many folks probably expected him to be more liberal because he was Black. Many held onto the hope of a progressive leader even in the face of instance after instance when Obama showed that he was a pragmatic politician who would move as far to the right as his supporters could possibly stand in order to make a small political gain.
On the other hand, those on the right saw a charismatic Democrat who had the potential to convince people to pursue an agenda that was contrary to the interests of the ownership class, and to good old fashioned religious values. Even after it was clear that the ownership class fared quite well under the programs that were put in place to alleviate the recession, and that there was going to be no government takeover of the means of production, there was still a fear that Obama was a closet liberal. Once the image of him was set, partisan politics offered no reason to abandon it.
So yeah, there are reasons other than race why the right hates Obama.
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D-Ray
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03-29-2014, 05:00 PM
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Well said Don.
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03-29-2014, 05:10 PM
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It's because he's black.
Period.
You can let the bastards off the hook if you want to, but I won't.
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03-29-2014, 06:25 PM
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I think one is always building on swamp when trying to erect rational explanations for hate.
Hate is pretty-much instinct-driven. One hates enemies, one hates what one fears, one in particular hates enemy others.
Functionally, hate is the war emotion, it's job is to motivate us to enjoy the idea of hurting enemies.
In modern times, parties are tribes, and partisans naturally hate the tribal enemy. Righties hated FDR, leftists hated Hoover, and so on ever since. Even as vanilla a fellow as Ford had people trying to kill him. Add to it a guy like Obama pressing all kinds of 'other' buttons (race and more), and you've got big hate, a sort of perfect storm of hate--among the haters. Some people are more prone to it than others.
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03-29-2014, 06:57 PM
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"There was an attractiveness to Obama's rhetoric that led many on the left to believe that he was going to be a transformational leader of a new progressive agenda."
This is why I voted for Obama, because in his speeches and his rhetoric, I saw someone sort of in the vein of FDR. The rights absolute shrillness at the thought of him winning and the way he, at the time, seemed to just shrug it off reminded me of FDRs 1936 inauguration speech and spurred me on.
Well, he's not nearly as ballsy as FDR or Give'em Hell Harry nor as sharp and charismatic as JFK. He's more like Lyndon Johnson, but not quite. So..............
I had considered McCain until he let Palin in and the Clown Car Circus, complete with sideshow freaks, fired up. That was the last time I took a Republican seriously. Forget Romney. That's the guy who shows up to shut the plant down, lay everybody off and tell them it's for their own good, saying something along the lines of; "You should be thanking me. I'm freeing you up to explore different opportunities.".  He's a fucking snake, hiding behind the Bible.
Dave
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03-29-2014, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
It's because he's black.
Period.
You can let the bastards off the hook if you want to, but I won't.
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You sound like my sister.
I think race is a factor, but there is more to it than that.
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03-29-2014, 07:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
It's because he's black.
Period.
You can let the bastards off the hook if you want to, but I won't.
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Thank you so very much. I understand completely now.
Jesus Christ on a bicycle!
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03-29-2014, 07:23 PM
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One thing about hate is everyone thinks their own is justified and reasonable.
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03-29-2014, 07:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
One thing about hate is everyone thinks their own is justified and reasonable.
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Well, it is!
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03-29-2014, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Well, it is! 
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