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05-13-2012, 06:55 PM
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Rich People - Bigger cheats, crooks?
A recent study found that 10 percent of people who work on Wall Street are “clinical psychopaths,” exhibiting a lack of interest in and empathy for others and an “unparalleled capacity for lying, fabrication, and manipulation.” (The proportion at large is 1 percent.) Another study concluded that the rich are more likely to lie, cheat and break the law.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/op...of-wealth.html
I'd like to say I'm surprised, but ...
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05-13-2012, 08:18 PM
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"There are ethical corporations, yes, and ethical businesspeople, but ethics in capitalism is purely optional, purely extrinsic. To expect morality in the market is to commit a category error. Capitalist values are antithetical to Christian ones. (How the loudest Christians in our public life can also be the most bellicose proponents of an unbridled free market is a matter for their own consciences.) Capitalist values are also antithetical to democratic ones. Like Christian ethics, the principles of republican government require us to consider the interests of others. Capitalism, which entails the single-minded pursuit of profit, would have us believe that it’s every man for himself." from the article
Hmmm- social darwinism at it's worst. That article will have some free market advocates heads exploding, methinks.
BOOhOOooo, it's class warfare.... wahhhhhhhh. They'll cry.
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05-14-2012, 07:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobabode
"There are ethical corporations, yes, and ethical businesspeople, but ethics in capitalism is purely optional, purely extrinsic. To expect morality in the market is to commit a category error. Capitalist values are antithetical to Christian ones. (How the loudest Christians in our public life can also be the most bellicose proponents of an unbridled free market is a matter for their own consciences.) Capitalist values are also antithetical to democratic ones. Like Christian ethics, the principles of republican government require us to consider the interests of others. Capitalism, which entails the single-minded pursuit of profit, would have us believe that it’s every man for himself." from the article
Hmmm- social darwinism at it's worst. That article will have some free market advocates heads exploding, methinks.
BOOhOOooo, it's class warfare.... wahhhhhhhh. They'll cry.
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First off;
Who cares? Let the stooges whine. Class warfare is necessary every now and then. When the rich folk start asking, "Why should I do it if there's no profit in it for me?"----It's time to show the selfish pricks a severed head or two. It's good for them, it makes them better people, they just refuse to face that fact.
Secondly,
Don't even get me started on the irony of attempting to mix rabid capitalism with Christianity. I guess you could say I'm a capitalist, sure. I have investments, and I've done a few mildly entrepeneurial things in my time But, that is the world I live in and what I must do to survive. I make no attempts to paint it as some great humanitarian endeavor, like I'm doing Gods work, when I wheel and deal to make a buck. I'm JUST making a buck, or two, and that's all.
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05-14-2012, 07:17 AM
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Due to it's callous, remorseless, and manipulative behavior, I have long suspected my little dog of being a psychopath.
And my suspicions were confirmed last Saturday whenever it attempted to murder the neighbor's chicken.
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05-14-2012, 07:19 AM
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Like anything in this article is a surprise?
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05-14-2012, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigerik
Like anything in this article is a surprise?
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Nope, unless you're an idiot. And we apparently have a lot of them, and they vote. I know this based on the following evidence;
1. We have more billionaires than anyone else and more than we've ever had in our history. But, the amount of (decent, high paying) domestic jobs created by them is inversely proportional. Which leads me to;
2. These people already find ways to avoid paying their taxes, in part or entirely. And, they have created a propaganda machine so effective that when someone suggests closing tax loopholes or raising their taxes, half of the country mobilizes to put a stop to it....Even if it means said mobilized dolts will end up paying more themselves.
3. Mitt Romney is running for President. And he very well might win, because some people think that a guy who has made his fortune firing people, liquidating businesses and outsourcing thousands of jobs cares about them and their future. Mind you, most of these folks, just a few months ago were praying somebody worth a damn would jump into the race......so they wouldn't have to support this waffling asshole.
Welcome to 21st Century America.
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05-14-2012, 07:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
A recent study found that 10 percent of people who work on Wall Street are “clinical psychopaths,” exhibiting a lack of interest in and empathy for others and an “unparalleled capacity for lying, fabrication, and manipulation.” (The proportion at large is 1 percent.) Another study concluded that the rich are more likely to lie, cheat and break the law.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/op...of-wealth.html
I'd like to say I'm surprised, but ...
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Not trying to disagree but this diagnosis is thrown around way too much and it is a damned serious disorder.
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05-14-2012, 09:48 AM
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05-14-2012, 10:40 AM
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What, me worry?
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A few years back I read a great interview with a prosecutor, about how they study to be able to tell when someone's lying.
He mentioned that the great liars usually end up in positions of public trust.
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
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3. Mitt Romney is running for President. And he very well might win, because some people think that a guy who has made his fortune firing people, liquidating businesses and outsourcing thousands of jobs cares about them and their future. Mind you, most of these folks, just a few months ago were praying somebody worth a damn would jump into the race......so they wouldn't have to support this waffling asshole.
Welcome to 21st Century America.
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Obama has received more contributions from Bain than Romney
Pete
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05-14-2012, 03:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
A recent study found that 10 percent of people who work on Wall Street are “clinical psychopaths,” exhibiting a lack of interest in and empathy for others and an “unparalleled capacity for lying, fabrication, and manipulation.” (The proportion at large is 1 percent.) Another study concluded that the rich are more likely to lie, cheat and break the law.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/op...of-wealth.html
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I think they should expand that study and check out members of the US House and Senate.
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