At the request of the US Energy Dept. none the less...

[doucanoe]

http://www.nctimes.com/news/national...126e25ff7.html



Lets go already!

[Charles]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

http://www.nctimes.com/news/national...126e25ff7.html



Lets go already!

Do I detect a bit of sanity at the DOE?

Chas

[piece-itpete]

Man, the arguments against pipeline construction are getting old.

Pete

[merrylander]

Considering that (to the best of my knowledge) TransCanada Pipeline is owned by Bell Canada Enterprises (BCE) I would say go for it. Bell got smart years back and since the telephone part was regulated they formed BCE and gave it owenrship of Bell Canada, so BCE is free to conduct business just like any other Canadian corporation, I believe it was shortly after I came down here that I heard BCE had bought the pipeline company.

[doucanoe]

We could erect a windmill straddling the pipeline ever 100 miles or so just for good measure.

[whell]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Man, the arguments against pipeline construction are getting old.

Pete

Talk about special interests mucking up the works for everyone. The fact that our country's energy policy must be rubber stamped by the environmental lobby is just sad. Ask the folks in the Southwest right now who are having fun with rolling blackouts.

[CarlV]

Ah yes, the dirty crude. It is OK with me as long as it is Texas and not the Chevron Richmond Ca. refinery.
They tried to get one over with a false EIR and lied saying it was only a modernization upgrade. When our Green Party mayor and the not bought councilman along with Citizens For A Better Environment caught on and blocked it via lawsuit. Of course come election time, Chevron spent 300,000 on a character assassination on the mayor and gave the old school bought-and-paid-for opponent 700,000. Just like the health care fiasco, all of a sudden they are a bottomless pit of money when it comes time to get one over.
We are still waiting for an honest proposal because the people sure need work here. But Chevron is quiet except for trying to sue back some of their property taxes.

In 2009, Chevron had the distinction of being the state’s largest industrial emitter of greenhouse gases. And 46 percent of the adults and 17 percent of kids in the town have asthma.

But Chevron’s plans for expansion would have included building in new systems so that the Richmond plant could refine heavier crude, which would have meant more pollution for the surrounding communities. The court ruled that Chevon broke the law when they conveniently failed to disclose their plans to refine dirtier oil that would have adverse affects on the community.

“Refineries that have begun the switch to heavier, dirtier crude oil emit up to 58 percent more greenhouse gases per barrel refined as compared wiht the average U.S. refinery,” said Greg Karras, a scientist with CBE said in a press release.

http://colorlines.com/archives/2010/...d_illegal.html

I hate to be a NIMBY about it but Texas government does not seem to care about such things.



Carl

[mossbacked]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

We could erect a windmill straddling the pipeline ever 100 miles or so just for good measure.

Yes! And hopefully the obnoxious low frequencies the blades generate will repel any terrorists who may be considering blowing such things up.

[doucanoe]

Originally Posted by mossbacked

Yes! And hopefully the obnoxious low frequencies the blades generate will repel any terrorists who may be considering blowing such things up.

The pipeline or just the windmill?

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

Talk about special interests mucking up the works for everyone. The fact that our country's energy policy must be rubber stamped by the environmental lobby is just sad. Ask the folks in the Southwest right now who are having fun with rolling blackouts.

Mainly because energy generation is in the greedy hands of private industry. When I lived in Ottawa (Ontario Hydro) for 13 years there was one blackout. A transformer the size of an average bedroom blew out. It was replaced with one mounted on a flatbed trailer in 12 hours. The permanent replacement was done without a hitch some time later.

Private industry spend all the profits on shareholders, or in the case of the local one, bad investments, and not on their local plant. BG&E locally has defaced more trees than all the storms and hurricanes have. If they had buried the wires they would not be spending money every year defacing trees. Poor planning.