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10-30-2010, 09:12 AM
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My mom is voting the republic line
My mom is voting the republic line this Tuesday. She is 81 and is not comfortable with someone born in Africa being President.
She wants every teabag candidate in the country to win but would not vote for Sarah Palin if she was running for something right now. "Sarah just does not know enough, yet."(of course she does not know anything about the other leaders of the teabag set)
I guess this is a perfect example of mass psychology in action and Fox has succeeded.
Sorry guys, I am pretty down on the human species.
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10-30-2010, 09:21 AM
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That must be a pretty hard pill for you to swallow. Is it possible that with her life experience she thinks the Dems don't have the right ideas?
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10-30-2010, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by noonereal
My mom is voting the republic line this Tuesday. She is 81 and is not comfortable with someone born in Africa being President.
She wants every teabag candidate in the country to win but would not vote for Sarah Palin if she was running for something right now. "Sarah just does not know enough, yet."(of course she does not know anything about the other leaders of the teabag set)
I guess this is a perfect example of mass psychology in action and Fox has succeeded.
Sorry guys, I am pretty down on the human species.
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My mom is voting the republic line this Tuesday. She is 81 and is not comfortable with someone born in Africa being President.
Interesting timing. Your mom would have been in her late teens when WW2 ended. During the war for the most part, blacks and whites fought and died alongside each other, watched each others backs. After 1945 things edged back towards the way they were in the 1930's. Your moms formative years would have been slap dab in the middle of this.
I don't know you or your family background, but for the sake of argument, if your mom was brought up in middle class middle America, for the most part she would have been brought up in a culture where what we now see as racial insult would have been perfectly acceptable. "Amos & Andy", that kind of thing. Nobody (except maybe a few radicals in the North) would have seen anything wrong with this, it was normal.
Now you've got a black man as president; highest office in the land. This shakes up a heck of a lot of beliefs and with all due respect to her, at 81, maybe seeing what she was brought up to believe was 'normal' being turned on its head is literally, shocking.
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10-30-2010, 10:25 AM
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Combwork, you put us to shame with your knowledge of US history. (Many Europeans also have a better grasp of the American political scene than do the majority over here.) Right or wrong, that was a very interesting analysis. It was particularly on point, because I recall Noone mentioning that he was a Republican before he saw the light. His life experiences changed his world view. (Don't let me put words in your mouth, Noone. That's what I recall reading, but you can set the record straight if my recollection is faulty.)
My Mom came from the same generation. She was a very loving and accepting person. When I was dating an African American lady in college, she was fine with it except - "I hope you don't get very serious because that would be so difficult." I'm not sure what she would have thought of our president, but our household was very much in line with the Democratic party.
Regards,
D-Ray
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10-30-2010, 11:02 AM
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One of the advantages I guess of spending my formative years in Canada and having lived in Quebec until I reached 40 I don't have a problem with the French/English bushwhaa either.
Having been a card carrying member of the Progressive Conservative party (not the one that calls itself conservative now) coming here was quite an education as I saw nowt conservative about the GOP. Even Olympia Snowe, a so called moderat seems more worried about the health insurance companies than her constituents.
As the King said "Tis a puzzlement".
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10-30-2010, 03:31 PM
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My folks were even older than your Mom when they passed, Mom-84, Dad,-91.
My mother came from a Republican family, but had little use for the Conservative arm of the party much after Barry Goldwater/Nixon era. Neither of my parents had any use for Reagan, but voted for him in '80 because the only thing they thought worse than Reagan was another four years of Jimmy Carter.
Dad told me once in the mid-eighties, "Ultimately these conservative Republicans will try to take things back to the 1920's. Which wasn't all it's cracked up to be. Some people were unbelieveably rich, everyone else was lucky to have a pot to piss in."
He was there, I wasn't. So, I guess i'll take his word for it.
Dave
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I have no idea what Pop thought of Obama. His personal life was in too much turmoil to care in '08 with my mother ill and dying. But, I do know one thing he truly hated was racism.
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10-30-2010, 03:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JJIII
That must be a pretty hard pill for you to swallow. Is it possible that with her life experience she thinks the Dems don't have the right ideas?
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well no. She has dementia and pretty much is motivated by fear these days.
she sees a report on identity thief and can't sleep,
I had to get her a security system during the summer even though every neighbor is family, close family.
Point is she has been scared by the lies Fox has told her about Obama and the Dems. This is exactly what Fox set out to do to people like her.
other than being anti abortion there is not an issue that she agrees with the GOP on. She is voting out of fear. Fear placed there intentionally by Fox, the propaganda machine of the GOP.
she is scared to death of mexicans now. everyone of them is a drug dealer who does not work and uses free healthcare.
it's sad beyond words what Fox/GOP has done to so many of our vulnerable
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10-30-2010, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Combwork
My mom is voting the republic line this Tuesday. She is 81 and is not comfortable with someone born in Africa being President.
Interesting timing. Your mom would have been in her late teens when WW2 ended. During the war for the most part, blacks and whites fought and died alongside each other, watched each others backs. After 1945 things edged back towards the way they were in the 1930's. Your moms formative years would have been slap dab in the middle of this.
I don't know you or your family background, but for the sake of argument, if your mom was brought up in middle class middle America, for the most part she would have been brought up in a culture where what we now see as racial insult would have been perfectly acceptable. "Amos & Andy", that kind of thing. Nobody (except maybe a few radicals in the North) would have seen anything wrong with this, it was normal.
Now you've got a black man as president; highest office in the land. This shakes up a heck of a lot of beliefs and with all due respect to her, at 81, maybe seeing what she was brought up to believe was 'normal' being turned on its head is literally, shocking.
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I've heard the view can be much more clear--looking from the outside in. Thank You for confirming this, Kind Sir.
Dave
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10-31-2010, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
I've heard the view can be much more clear--looking from the outside in. Thank You for confirming this, Kind Sir.
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What of course happens is that the media in other countries tends to spend a good amount of time on world news, so for example the CBC 11 O'Clck news devoted quite a bit of the newscast to what was happening in other world capitals.
Interesting side note, I see that my former employer, Bell Canada, has bought the CTV television network.
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10-31-2010, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
I've heard the view can be much more clear--looking from the outside in. Thank You for confirming this, Kind Sir.
Dave
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Just a thorough reading of The Economist shows you how lousy Time, Newsweek, etc., are.
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