Gun Totin' Karen and Chad in St. Lou Charged w/ Felonies.

[bobabode]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ge%2Fstory-ans

Dumbassed lawyers both charged with a felony. Let's hope their right to bear arms is curtailed if and until they realize that with rights come responsibilities and shoes.

[jmcslob]

I felt that she was in the wrong for having her finger on the trigger.
but...that's about it.

[RickeyM]

Bunkerbitch has already said he'll pardon them.

Originally Posted by jmcslob

I felt that she was in the wrong for having her finger on the trigger.
but...that's about it.

So your OK with them waving loaded weapons at protesters walking past their house?

[FordGT90]

It was a gated community and the mob broke the gate. They were also trespassing on their private property. Missouri has a castle doctrine law and the charges will likely be dismissed because of it. They could easily countersue the protestors for breaking the gate in likely small claims court.

Imagine for a second if they didn't do what they did. Do you think those houses would still be standing? Very little happened in this incident. I'd call it a happy ending all things considered.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

It was a gated community and the mob broke the gate. They were also trespassing on their private property. Missouri has a castle doctrine law and the charges will likely be dismissed because of it. They could easily countersue the protestors for breaking the gate in likely small claims court.

Imagine for a second if they didn't do what they did. Do you think those houses would still be standing? Very little happened in this incident. I'd call it a happy ending all things considered.

Yeah, bullshit. Respectfully, of course. Where did you get your law degree?

[FordGT90]

By breaking and entering, all members of the mob committed at least a misdemeanor. The mob should have never passed that gate. I can see a jury convicting members of the mob of at least a misdemeanor; I can't see a jury convicting the couple of defending their property.


The mob is the most ruthless of tyrants. --Friedrich Nietzsche


Edit: From your source:

St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner, who filed the charges against the McCloskeys, did not order the couple to surrender or be arrested. Instead, as part of Gardner’s reformist approach to reducing incarceration for low-level crimes, she issued summonses and said she would consider them for a diversion program, which would enable the charge to be dismissed if counseling or another remedial course were completed.

Gardner knows the chances of anything sticking are slim to none but she has to put on a parade to appease the mob.

To enter the St. Louis circuit attorney’s diversion program, one must plead guilty, and if the program is completed, the guilty plea is withdrawn and the charge dismissed.

They won't plead guilty, period. Even the governor is on their side:

Missouri Gov. Mike Parson (R) said in a radio interview last week that he would likely pardon the McCloskeys if they were charged. … “We will not allow law-abiding citizens to be targeted for exercising their constitutional rights.”

The charges are a farce.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

It was a gated community and the mob broke the gate. They were also trespassing on their private property. Missouri has a castle doctrine law and the charges will likely be dismissed because of it. They could easily countersue the protestors for breaking the gate in likely small claims court.

Imagine for a second if they didn't do what they did. Do you think those houses would still be standing? Very little happened in this incident. I'd call it a happy ending all things considered.

'You think those houses would still be standing?' Is ill-informed opinion at best. Your biased-opinion-at-a-distance carries no weight no matter how emphatically you state it. And there's actually a strong whiff of race baiting here.

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

'You think those houses would still be standing?' Is ill-informed opinion at best.

I admit I made a mistake: I did not realize that the gate was open prior to the protestors passing through it. At the same time, it is reasonable that the McCloskey's believed the protestors forced entry through the gate; ergo, there cannot be a felony conviction because that requires "beyond reasonable doubt" that they weren't on the brink of their property being trespassed on and assaulted by the protestors.

Society has a solution for preventing these kinds of confrontations: getting a permit from the city to protest. To my knowledge, the protestors had no such permit; ergo, the McCloskey's had every right to be concerned especially given the context of rioting and looting from the news at the time.

Originally Posted by donquixote99

And there's actually a strong whiff of race baiting here.

You're the first to bring up race in this discussion. Pray tell us why.

[Pio1980]

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.co...ypes-penalties

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.co...ypes-penalties

That seems to describe both sides.