The Affordable Care Act

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

And these countries are poor and there economies are on the verge of a collapse.
And in no way have the quality of healthcare the US does. Even Canadians come here if the have the money.

I love how everyone wants the US to be Europe or some other country. We'll move you are free to do that.

The US has some of the best doctors in the world...many imported from other countries because our fucked up health care system still pays premium prices.

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

I do not understand what you are trying to say. Who is not pay lol

Also an employer will not be eating anything if you read the report. They will transfer that cost to the worker.

My employer went from paying 100% for the employee to paying 80% for whole family coverage. I was rather happy to pay the extra couple hundred bucks it cost me to have my wife and kids insured. I will take that kind of cost transfer any day.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by finnbow

It's ill-informed idiocy such as this by much of the American public that is, in large measure, responsible for our under-performing and overpriced health care system.

Take you head out of the sand did you just wake up?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

WTF The whole EU is in one basket, Greece France Italy Portugal Cyprus Spain. Have all been in dire straights the past few years and on the verge of total collapse bringing the whole euro down. The only reason they haven't is intervention from the Fed & IMF...

Completely and totally wrong. Again. Where the hell do you get your "news?" The PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) were indeed economic basket cases, but were bailed out mostly by Germany, not us. Hell, their economic travails were largely the results of investing in our trumped up derivatives. The European countries north of the Alps are anything but economic basket cases. We should be so lucky to have an economy like Germany's. They were the world's leading exporter until China caught them a couple of years ago and their exports are "high-value-added" products. The German education and health care systems, not to mention their manufacturing prowess, are far ahead of ours.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by mpholland

The US has some of the best doctors in the world...many imported from other countries because our fucked up health care system still pays premium prices.



My employer went from paying 100% for the employee to paying 80% for whole family coverage. I was rather happy to pay the extra couple hundred bucks it cost me to have my wife and kids insured. I will take that kind of cost transfer any day.

Sounds like you have a good employer. But in 2015 the plan your on might not be grandfathered in and an upgrade needed.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Completely and totally wrong. Again. Where the hell do you get your "news?" The PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) were indeed economic basket cases, but were bailed out by Germany, not us. Hell, their economic travails were largely the results of investing in our trumped up derivatives. The European countries north of the Alps are anything but economic basket cases. We should be so lucky to have an economy like Germany's. They were the world's leading exporter until China caught them a couple of years ago and their exports are "high-value-added" products. The German education and health care systems, not to mention their manufacturing prowess, is far ahead of ours.

The FED & IMF bailed out the euro lol. That is bailing out Germany what the fuck do you think al those meeting were for a 20 months ago.

But you know everything so I would much prefer you being in the dark.

Good luck

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

The FED & IMF bailed out the euro lol. That is bailing out Germany what the fuck do you think al those meeting were for a 20 months ago.

But you know everything so I would much prefer you being in the dark.

Good luck

That wasn't bailing out Germany, that was to keep Germany from telling the poorer euro nations to go fuck themselves and changing their currency.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Completely and totally wrong. Again. Where the hell do you get your "news?" The PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) were indeed economic basket cases, but were bailed out mostly by Germany, not us. Hell, their economic travails were largely the results of investing in our trumped up derivatives. The European countries north of the Alps are anything but economic basket cases. We should be so lucky to have an economy like Germany's. They were the world's leading exporter until China caught them a couple of years ago and their exports are "high-value-added" products. The German education and health care systems, not to mention their manufacturing prowess, are far ahead of ours.

Obviously I don't get my economic news from the Washington Post.

As everything crashes and burns there talking like Bagdad Bob saying everything is cool. Got to watch Obamas back.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by mpholland

That wasn't bailing out Germany, that was to keep Germany from telling the poorer euro nations to go fuck themselves and changing their currency.

We can't have the euro crash it will crash us. We can wake up to that any day and will not get a hint of it.

Yes Germany would love to leave the euro now, but they can't.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

The FED & IMF bailed out the euro lol. That is bailing out Germany what the fuck do you think al those meeting were for a 20 months ago.

But you know everything so I would much prefer you being in the dark.

Good luck

The extent of their bailout provided by the Fed was due to the fact that about 1/3 of all the toxic derivatives that caused the crash were actively marketed to them by our under-regulated brokerage houses.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

We can't have the euro crash it will crash us. We can wake up to that any day and will not get a hint of it.

Yes Germany would love to leave the euro now, but they can't.

And the reason they can't is that the Euro was pushed by them to help their export economy which is still quite robust (actually too robust).

Back to the OP. What do you know about the health care systems of other First World nations, including northern Europe?